I’m glad I wasn’t Disney’d in childhood. Better to know reality, than be deluded, made fragile and crippled by reality. Face the horror. Stop lying to children. Children become adults.
Grow up on a farm and you really have no delusions about how the world works. Although I did think teachers lived at the school so I was unclear with how Mrs Thatcher got pregnant.
Yeah it was a different Mrs Thatcher, and to be clear that might not have been her actual name, I’m just coming up with something that sounds appropriately similar. I’ve subsequently seen pictures of her in the class yearbook. She was really really hot, when she was my teacher she was younger than I am now so I absolutely did not appreciate her attractiveness.
There were a lot of teachers that were married, and that in itself didn’t make sense to me. Not because I thought they lived at school, but because they had such awful attitudes that I couldn’t imagine somebody agreeing to spend their entire lives with them.
Then I grew up and realized that their husbands were probably awful, too. Either that, or the teachers took all their frustrations out on their students and had happier home lives. Either way, I still find it pretty sad. I know patience is a virtue, but you should know what you’re getting into when you choose to become a teacher. Shitty teachers create traumatized students. If you don’t think you can hack it, please, for the sake of all that is good, consider a different career.
Oh no she was wonderful, we got to hear all the hot gossip from her. None of the teachers liked Mrs Hall, she was the antichrist apparently. Even as a kid I could tell she hated children. God knows why she became a teacher.
Meanwhile Mrs Thatcher had a rabbit, a classroom pet. Oh it was wonderful, I’m not sure I necessarily learnt all that much from her, but I really liked her.
i dont think you know what teachers go through. elementary teachers get physically assaulted by their students and then get blamed by admin AND parents. teachers dont have shitty attitudes from their home life, they have it because they are exploited yet held to impossible standards.
one teacher i know, quit her job after some fifth grade students showed her a print of her house on google maps, said they know where she lives and were gonna go there and rape and kill her daughter. she ended up in inpatient psychiatric care from this job. the kids in question were not expelled and nothing was done.
Things have definitely escalated today. We didn’t have Google maps and other instant-stalking technology when I went to elementary school. Columbine and school shootings hadn’t been a thing yet either (though they would be, later on in my school years.) A lot of modern teacher stresses aren’t applicable to a critique of the elementary school teachers that I had.
Also, I teach kids, specifically special needs students. Violent outbursts aren’t uncommon, we even have blocking pads for those situations. One of my coworkers got a concussion this summer in spite of it. I know it isn’t easy, but I also knew what I was getting into.
It’s one thing to do the best with the situation you’re dealt, but it’s something else to lose your cool and take it out on your students. If I were ever to feel my spark for teaching start to fade, or a resentment of children set in, I’d move onto a different job. That wouldn’t be easy either, but it’d be a hell of a lot more ethical.
I mean you grew up believing that it’s healthier to eat meat rather than just more profitable to sell it, or that it is morally defensible in any way to create an intelligent creature and then force it into a state of utter lifelong dependency just so that you can exploit its biological processes, so I wouldn’t be so sure about that “no delusions” thing. You’re on your own supply.
that it is morally defensible in any way to create an intelligent creature and then force it into a state of utter lifelong dependency just so that you can exploit its biological processes
Interestingly, I don’t have issue with people who hunt for meat (provided they follow generally accepted responsible hunting practices), but I have a big fucking issue with animal agriculture.
The quoted section is the distinguishing factor. Creating sentient life for the explicit purpose of exploiting it really rubs me the wrong way.
Humans are part of nature too, and we have our animal instincts same as any other animal. Only thing that differs is our capacity to self-reflect and exercise agency over our place in the ecosystem. What matters is that we have respect for life and don’t take it for granted. I agree that factory farms, hunting for sport or luxury goods like furs, etc. is wrong, but I don’t see a problem with a small farm raising some animals as long as they’re treated with respect and given a comfortable life. All animals - including us - are dependent on others for survival.
No one who breeds, murders, and butchers animals (or who pays to have those things done) has respect for life. You are lying to yourself so that you don’t have to see yourself as a bad person. There is a better way not to see yourself as a bad person.
Farms do not “raise” animals. When you raise a child, you prepare it for life. A farm animal does not go on to enjoy life, they are killed in their absolute prime, because that is when the product is at its best. It’s absurd that these lies are convincing to you, but we are eager to believe certain lies, aren’t we?
The mother of the last pig you ate was perfectly capable of raising her own young. But a farmer took that ability from her by locking her in a cage that was so fucking small, she could not even turn around or roll over. That’s how a fucking farmer “raises” a fucking piglet. Enrichment? Meeting emotional needs? Basic medical attention for injuries? No. You are put in a cage so small you cannot move, until you die.
The lies you tell yourself are disgusting. Keep them to yourself.
I’m glad I wasn’t Disney’d in childhood. Better to know reality, than be deluded, made fragile and crippled by reality. Face the horror. Stop lying to children. Children become adults.
There’s a time and a place and a manner for that, and I rather suspect you think perpetuating trauma makes you cool.
It doesn’t. It makes you an asshole.
Also Disney was the one tossing lemmings off a cliff for a documentary. so… not the best way to express that thought.
o_O … Where did you pick up that suspicion from???
Strikingly the wrong end of the stick grabbed there. Or, even, a completely other stick.
Completely still corroborates what I was saying. It seems you did not get what I was saying, at all.
Grow up on a farm and you really have no delusions about how the world works. Although I did think teachers lived at the school so I was unclear with how Mrs Thatcher got pregnant.
Presumably, alcohol involved.
Although, that too likely still naive.
… The perversions in the crooked cabal… they’re into a lot of really really vile stuff.
[Edit: Oh… or are you talking about a different Mrs Thatcher than
?]
Oh we love you Mrs Thatcher, like your old man likes a brew;
such a lad your husband Denis when he’s had a drink or two.
Sure he’ll take a pint of Murphy’s and a glass of Irish Mist
and because he sleeps with you each night, no wonder he’s always pissed.
Yeah it was a different Mrs Thatcher, and to be clear that might not have been her actual name, I’m just coming up with something that sounds appropriately similar. I’ve subsequently seen pictures of her in the class yearbook. She was really really hot, when she was my teacher she was younger than I am now so I absolutely did not appreciate her attractiveness.
Yeah. Very certainly a different Mrs Thatcher than the UK’s Prime Minister through the 1980s.
There were a lot of teachers that were married, and that in itself didn’t make sense to me. Not because I thought they lived at school, but because they had such awful attitudes that I couldn’t imagine somebody agreeing to spend their entire lives with them.
Then I grew up and realized that their husbands were probably awful, too. Either that, or the teachers took all their frustrations out on their students and had happier home lives. Either way, I still find it pretty sad. I know patience is a virtue, but you should know what you’re getting into when you choose to become a teacher. Shitty teachers create traumatized students. If you don’t think you can hack it, please, for the sake of all that is good, consider a different career.
Oh no she was wonderful, we got to hear all the hot gossip from her. None of the teachers liked Mrs Hall, she was the antichrist apparently. Even as a kid I could tell she hated children. God knows why she became a teacher.
Meanwhile Mrs Thatcher had a rabbit, a classroom pet. Oh it was wonderful, I’m not sure I necessarily learnt all that much from her, but I really liked her.
i dont think you know what teachers go through. elementary teachers get physically assaulted by their students and then get blamed by admin AND parents. teachers dont have shitty attitudes from their home life, they have it because they are exploited yet held to impossible standards.
one teacher i know, quit her job after some fifth grade students showed her a print of her house on google maps, said they know where she lives and were gonna go there and rape and kill her daughter. she ended up in inpatient psychiatric care from this job. the kids in question were not expelled and nothing was done.
Things have definitely escalated today. We didn’t have Google maps and other instant-stalking technology when I went to elementary school. Columbine and school shootings hadn’t been a thing yet either (though they would be, later on in my school years.) A lot of modern teacher stresses aren’t applicable to a critique of the elementary school teachers that I had.
Also, I teach kids, specifically special needs students. Violent outbursts aren’t uncommon, we even have blocking pads for those situations. One of my coworkers got a concussion this summer in spite of it. I know it isn’t easy, but I also knew what I was getting into.
It’s one thing to do the best with the situation you’re dealt, but it’s something else to lose your cool and take it out on your students. If I were ever to feel my spark for teaching start to fade, or a resentment of children set in, I’d move onto a different job. That wouldn’t be easy either, but it’d be a hell of a lot more ethical.
I mean you grew up believing that it’s healthier to eat meat rather than just more profitable to sell it, or that it is morally defensible in any way to create an intelligent creature and then force it into a state of utter lifelong dependency just so that you can exploit its biological processes, so I wouldn’t be so sure about that “no delusions” thing. You’re on your own supply.
Interestingly, I don’t have issue with people who hunt for meat (provided they follow generally accepted responsible hunting practices), but I have a big fucking issue with animal agriculture.
The quoted section is the distinguishing factor. Creating sentient life for the explicit purpose of exploiting it really rubs me the wrong way.
Humans are part of nature too, and we have our animal instincts same as any other animal. Only thing that differs is our capacity to self-reflect and exercise agency over our place in the ecosystem. What matters is that we have respect for life and don’t take it for granted. I agree that factory farms, hunting for sport or luxury goods like furs, etc. is wrong, but I don’t see a problem with a small farm raising some animals as long as they’re treated with respect and given a comfortable life. All animals - including us - are dependent on others for survival.
Meaningless appeal to nature. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_nature
No one who breeds, murders, and butchers animals (or who pays to have those things done) has respect for life. You are lying to yourself so that you don’t have to see yourself as a bad person. There is a better way not to see yourself as a bad person.
Farms do not “raise” animals. When you raise a child, you prepare it for life. A farm animal does not go on to enjoy life, they are killed in their absolute prime, because that is when the product is at its best. It’s absurd that these lies are convincing to you, but we are eager to believe certain lies, aren’t we?
it’s not being used fallaciously
The mother of the last pig you ate was perfectly capable of raising her own young. But a farmer took that ability from her by locking her in a cage that was so fucking small, she could not even turn around or roll over. That’s how a fucking farmer “raises” a fucking piglet. Enrichment? Meeting emotional needs? Basic medical attention for injuries? No. You are put in a cage so small you cannot move, until you die.
The lies you tell yourself are disgusting. Keep them to yourself.
you don’t actually know any of that. your guessing.
You kidding me? I only eat meat because it is cooked, and is what is available. I tried to secretly go vegan.
and I won’t pretend it’s not
Seriously I’ve read this about 10 times and I still have no idea what you’re going on about. It’s healthier to eat meat than sell it, what?
What absolute grammar hellhole is this? What animal are you thinking of?
It’s honestly not that hard, but you still managed to get it exactly backwards. Maybe with that hint you’ll finally figure it out.
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