Austria, Hungary, Italy and Poland
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3/4 Fascist. What a coincidence.
The USA are our allies, and China is our enemy. Did I understand correctly?
That would be great!
Let’s start with
kicking outsaddly (*sniff *, *sniff*) having to see the departure of Hungary.I mean, just look at Brexit: one side got seriously fucked up (instant fall of 20% of their currency and slowly dropping further behind economically ever since - the dream of a Economic Powerhouse Britain are gone and burried now: just ask even the most rabid Brexiter to list their Brexit Dividends) whilst the other basically just went over a small speed bump. I’ll leave it as an exercise for the readers which side got which consequences.
PS: That said, having seen the consequences of Brexit is exactly why no EU nation is likely to ever take Donald on this - after that shit show the far-right in Europe went really silent really fast on the whole “we must leave the EU” they were so loudly demanding just a few months before.
PPS: Also as a person from a small EU country, lets just say we’re very much aware of just how the big boys would fuck us up if we left the safety of the pack - unlike in Delusions Of Grandeur Britain the public opinion in little nations doesn’t want a return to the way things were in 70s when they were the “punching bag of the big boys”. Meanwhile the larger EU countries - which are all merelly mid-sized in World terms - after having seen what happened to Britain post-Brexit know with absolute certainty they have far greater influence being in the EU than they would outside, which is why even Italy with a well entrenched far-right government hasn’t distanced itself an inch away from the EU. Only some totally out of control shit-show of a nation in the thrall of the nuttiest of nutter far-right would even just consider this and, frankly, them leaving the EU would be great for the rest (not least because, as it happenned with Brexit, it would at least temporarilly dampen the far-right in all the other countries)
Hungary is not the Orbán government.
UK is doing just as badly as the rest of Europe.
The actual benefit is being out of the environmental disaster that is the Common Agriculture Policy.
Actually Britain is doing 6 to 8% worse that the rest of the EU and that’s just in reduced Economic Growth.
Its influence in international affairs has also fallen steeply - one thing is to be a mid-sized country with a significant ability to move a block of 540 million people, a whole different thing is to be just another mid-sized country.
Having lived there at the time, I keenly remember how Britain was supposed to become once again an Economic Powerhouse (with Return To Past Greatness implied, rather than openly stated as in the US). Such fanciful bollocks is now well dead and burried.
Actually Britain is doing 6 to 8% worse that the rest of the EU and that’s just in reduced Economic Growth.
Actually it isn’t. You’re talking about synthetic counter factual models which are bullshit
Compare the UK against it’s actual doppelgangers, France and Germany, and we are all very much in the same boat. No growth and lots of debt.
The UK’s systematic productivity problems all occurred while in the EU, not after it left.
And no our soft power hasn’t been hurt at all https://brandfinance.com/insights/global-soft-power-index-2025-the-shifting-balance-of-global-soft-power
The UK is now free to regulate under common law, not the innovation smothering, precautionary principled yawn fest that is Roman civil law
Sure mate, the Brexit Dividend Is Just Around The Corner And Will Begin At Any Moment Now and The Fall Of The British Pound Just Makes Britain More Competitive.
Meanwhile in the real World back in 2016 you could get 1 EUR for 0.7 GBP and now it costs 0.87 GBP so the World thinks everything Britain is worth 24% - British inflation hasnt been higher than Euro Zone inflation so the fall in the GBP hasn’t been offset by an increase in GBP valuations - and my old savings when I lived and worked in Britain (which were transfered out of the GBP just before the Leave Referendum results) are worth 24% more in EUR than they would if they stayed in GBP (purely from betting against the British Pound, not counting actual investment returns since).
Mind you, Europe is fucked. It’s just that Britain is even more fucked. It’s like most countries in the EU doing some stupid post 2008 Crash shit that fucks them up and Britain going “Hold my beer!”
Lol, the fall in the pound made our services exports even more competitive.
Come back when you’ve learned something beyond the headlines
That “strangely” specific metric you quote conveniently forgets the trade balance in goods which more than offsets services so now with a currency which is 24% weaker - which makes everything Britain worth less and supposedly is better for trade - the UK’s total trade balance is actually worse than in 2016 (source)
I see that the Brexiter tendency to blindly believe in self-congratulating nationalistic Sun newspaper headlines and not actually googling for easilly available economic figures has remained unchanged in the last decade.
Good old Brexiter cherry-picking is alive and well.
Also it’s hilarious that you pretty much parroted my “The Fall Of The British Pound Just Makes Britain More Competitive” charicatural Brexiter line based on actual Leave Campaign bollocks. Our exchange reminds me of the old days!
Yawn, UK goods exports to the EU has been in decline for decades. 0.29% if UK companies stopped exporting to the EU. Oh no.
Meanwhile services are up 75% since 2016.
What would you rather have? Polluting high carbon goods trade or high margin low carbon services?
As I said, the benefit was leaving the CAP
If you actually understood the impact currency changes have you wouldn’t post this tripe. In a Weird Trump Initial Caps Style, makes you should like a Retard
So “Make X great again” just means bringing enshittification to the state level yeah?
They never said for whom they’re making it great.
Yep, because it worked out so well for the UK
I don’t think Poland would ever actually leave the EU. Every poll says that poles love being in it even if the far right complains a ton. As someone who lived in Poland between 2005 and 2020 the improvements from being in the EU are so noticeable it would be suicide for the country to actually leave.
IMO: the Americans are adversaries now.
The American government, absolutely. They’ve been pretty open about it.
Hungary leaving EU? Oh pleeeaaassse i can only get so wet!!
Hungary leaving the EU may not be the best outcome. I fear they would become like Belarus, a proxy for Russia’s hybrid warfare, for instance weaponizing migrants to cause havoc at the border, allow them to operate jammer and drone operation from their terrirory.
hungary is the welfare state of the EU.
I guess the majority of eu citizens hate hungarians by now. what a douche country. i wonder what drives these small dick energy countries forward. look at serbia. same small dick energy like “oh we hate diversity. lets get butt fucked by russia” instead of growing their own balls.
so yeah, fuck the hungarians!
Not hungarians. The government of hungary
My only problem with Hungarians is that they keep re-electing Orban, and even then I understand that given his control of the Press over there, most who do it are just being daily brainwashed to do it.
That said, a Hungary Leave might just be the jolt that’s needed to change things there (and it would isolate the rest of us from their problems plus would seriously dampen the prospects of any Orban-similar far-right in the rest of Eastern Europe), though there is a risk for Hungarian that the place turns into a hard autocracy controlled by Russia like Belarus and thus can’t actually get back to Democracy for at least several decades.
Hungary’s elections are very very far from “free and fair”
that explains all the protests…not.
There are tons of protests.
What’s your beef here? Some personal vendetta against Hungarians? You missed out on cheap Lake side property around Balaton or something?
Hungary’s elections are very very far from “free and fair”
right right, i forgot that orban came to power by god and not by election. sure the hungarians are known for their friendliness, openminds and great culture. LOL.
FUCK THE HUNGARIANS! they are retarded imbeciles from the past with the dominant mindset of hate towards anyone who is different. The dumber americans just coin it “woke”.
Some of the most anti-EU countrys leaving the EU? Luckily I do not see big long term negativ consequences here.
See? I told you this shit was gonna leak and start becoming your problem, too.
There is always shit leaking out of Donnie’s diaper. Of course, this is a problem.
or it leaks out of russian agent tulsi gabbard.
It’s the same diaper
mercans repeating father Putins wishes.
Putin with be happier if countries left NATO, not the EU though.
this has putins stink all over it, if its not obvious already.
Who needs enemies when you have friends like this?
The US was never anybody’s friend.
At best they were partners of convenience and only for as long as it they gained from it.
Remember that even before Trump American interests were pushing for Brexit to weakening the EU, for example by funding Cambridge Analitica to spread pro-Leave propaganda in Facebook.
Countries don’t have allies, they have interests.
In any other world, where facts actually matter, “friends” like this would be called what they are: Enemies.
Isn’t Trump’s whole thing about stopping foreigners from interfering with your country and cultural erosion? Why’s he enforcing HIS ideals on others?
Introspection and understanding hypocrisy is the furthest thing I would expect from him
@aarRJaay
Wait. You hope for coherence? _There_, in that cesspool of what may have been a mind once?
Step 1 to Making Europe Great Again: Ignore every idea that comes directly from a Make America Great Again mouth piece.
Step 2: Educate the member states’ populations so they stop voting in fascists.
Step 3: Congratulations, you’re done!
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