Plan would apply to countries not currently required to get visas to the US, including Britain and France
In a notice published on Tuesday, the US Customs and Border Protection agency (CBP) said it would also require any telephone numbers used by visitors over the same period, and any email addresses used in the last decade, as well as face, fingerprint, DNA and iris biometrics. It would also ask for the names, addresses, birthdates and birthplaces of family members, including children.
At what point do these countries start reciprocating?
Start subjecting Americans (who can afford to go abroad) to the same bullshit we subject foreigners to and we might find support for the regime evaporating…
Honestly stop pussy footing and just issue a total embargo on the US as a whole, every base, territory, or ship included. No exceptions, if Air Force one pokes it’s shitty head into any sovereign airspace it gets obliterated, if any American ships pop up on foreign shores then they’re impounded and scrapped.
Treat us worse than the fucken Norks. This empire is collapsing regardless may as well speed it up a bit.
Never. European countries gain nothing from tourists going to USA. They get money from USA tourists coming to Europe. It’s a win-win for Europe: more European tourists staying here while US tourists still coming to spend their money. Why fight it?
As an American that loves going to Europe for the unending culture and family relations through my partner, I hope they don’t do this. It’s the only light getting into America, the ones traveling outside of it and at minimum enlightening themselves enough to continue progressive mindsets inside the U.S.
You know, that might even be their goal.
But according to the article, these new hurdles will apply to visitors under the ESTA waiver also. And those are just as likely to be business travelers on short trips as they are full-on tourists.
Tell American executives that they can’t enter Europe, even for a week, without surrendering their own social media history and then they get to experience actual consequences.
So all the business meetings will be happening in Europe. It’s still a win for Europe. Governments rarely do things just to show people what it’s like.
I don’t mean to jump down your throat on this, my beef isn’t with you. But I think it’s attitudes like this that enable Fascist regimes to establish themselves.
If things continue to go badly here in the US then historians will view this as “appeasement”. Not standing up against Fascism because it was more profitable that way.
Yeah, I’m not saying what I’m for or against, just saying what EU will do and why.
And I don’t think anyone will see letting Americans in as an appeasement. By numbers most Americans are not MAGA so US wide ban would be unfair group punishment, you want to leave the door open for anyone who wants to escape US and punishing normal citizens will not change anything. EU is not in a position to fight US. They way to win is to stand your ground on human rights and work to become independent of American influence which EU is doing moderately good job at.
A fair number of those are people trying to flee the US. I was one of them, left at the first chance I could.