• Maeve@midwest.social
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    And how many votes did all of the third parties get? not even enough to make a difference to a fart in the wind.

    Moreover, Dems sued to keep the Socialist Workers’ Party candidate, Claudia De La Cruz off the ballot – but only in swing states. They knew they were selling a cold crap sandwich, and rather than change the message, they courted the far Reich wing.

    They can not withstand criticism of what they’ve come to associate their identity with. It’s always that you just need to get in behind the party, no matter how bad the parties ideas are.

    I see them as a mix of that, and loss aversion "FU I got mine!” voters. Rather than work to build up and promote a better candidate, they will absolutely push their drowning kindred under the water to keep themselves afloat.

    They don’t care. And when Reich Wing Lite loses to full - blown Reich Wing, they will cling bitterly to the idea it was people who envision better, for more of us and work for it, rather than take it for the data points from which to learn and envision better for everyone, and blame this who have the vision, grit, and gumption to work for it.

    Fortune favors the bold. And rich.

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      100%

      But we’re winning this fight. We’ve made huge strides in getting the narrative that actually, its the Democratic party thats the problem, over the course of the past 2 years. But we’re still not there yet.

      Until the working class completely subverts the DNC to their collective will, and actually democratizes the party, we’re not there yet. And every apologist who tells you to vote against your own interests because ABWD is part of the problem.

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        I don’t think the dnc is worth saving. Snarling wolves and smiling foxes analogy. But I bet a good SWP candidate like De La Cruz is absolutely worth fighting for.

        I have been having RL conversations with neighbors, who have everything to lose and are extremely loss adverse, with their heads barely above water. "If we don’t hold our own accountable and show them they’re replaceable, why would they court our votes and not the racists?” Most hear me out. One thinks I’m maga.

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          "If we don’t hold our own accountable and show them they’re replaceable, why would they court our votes and not the racists?”

          I mean thats exactly it. If they’ve taken your vote for a given, and they will if they can, they won’t compete for it. And it loses elections.

          aaaaaAAAANNnnndd

          When it is feckless Democrats who do get into office, and they do jack about shit… Where does that leave us, on the ground, trying to make the argument that people should vote for this party. When Schumer and Jefferies just roll over and show their bellies to the Trumps of the worlds, how the hell do they expect me to make an argument to an unconvinced voter who doesn’t believe that government can be effective, how do I convince that voter that things can be different?