• rapchee@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    not to say that any action is justified against muslims, but the quran is just as bad as any religious text. i don’t need to learn everything about scientology to be able to dismiss it, why should it be different for islam? or any christian sect and the rest too

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      Have you read any of it? 🙄 I’m pretty sure the Sermon of the Mount and Ecclesiastes are very different from the doctrines of Satanism wherever they’re written, lol, you can’t just put all belief in one bag because you don’t know what belief is!

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        THERE ARE SEVEN FUNDAMENTAL TENETS

        I

        One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.

        II

        The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.

        III

        One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.

        IV

        The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one’s own.

        V

        Beliefs should conform to one’s best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one’s beliefs.

        VI

        People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one’s best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.

        VII

        Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.

        I am not a satanist, but these are the tenets of the satanic temple.

        Edit: formatting

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          Damn, that’s pretty moral and nice and not devilish at all, lol. Whatever Marylin Manson was acting up to be is what I thought Satanism was, but I see could be a Satanist! 😂

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        Indeed we can. Because “belief” is not based on reason. Therefor it is ALL in the same basket as something I don’t want in my government. If I believed (get it!) any of them could be trusted to govern in a secular manner I might be less salty. But I have been given very little evidence that they** can.

        ** They = anyone who openly, loudly, repeatedly identifies themselves by their magical thinking while campaigning / governing. They are more than welcome to believe what they want so long as they keep it out of the way of deciding my way of life. I still hold a place in my heart that thinks that’s possible, but it is getting smaller every day as I watch the [religious text]-thumpers screaming louder and louder.

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          Belief just means standing for something. I believe in generosity, self control, avoidance of violence, the proper treatment of women and children, etc etc. I’ll stand behind it regardless of what you say. The Qur’an also advocates this, and people agree with it so they “believe” in what’s written. Only believing in the Creator Himself and everything that happens after death requires any sort of “effort”, and even the former I would say is self evident!

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            Religion is neither necessary nor sufficient to engender qualities of generosity, self-control, avoiding violence / advocating for peace, treating people well etc.

            Those also aren’t the types of “beliefs” I’m talking about and you know it. I specifically mentioned magical thinking and in this context “belief” is not a reference to believing in being generous, but belief in the supernatural, god, spirits, etc … magical thinking. More to the point, believing in those, the books that espouse them, and expecting other’s around you to believe / act based on those same beliefs is my problem; doubly so when preached from my elected representatives.

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        well they are all just stories, so in the “base your life on it” sense it doesn’t matter. have you read any satanist texts?