• Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world
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    23 hours ago

    So. NO. This is what we are fighting against. We need to make a society where everyone can be included, happy, heallthy, and free. Not just exclude those we don’t currently agree with.

    Many of these hard core MAGA people are like super fans of a sports team. They are looking for something to identify as and a group to be part of. Give them better options and they wouldn’t exist.

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      Give them better options and they wouldn’t exist.

      Straight up bullshit. They’ve been given better options over and over. They are small, hateful people.

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      20 hours ago

      Nope, fuck maga. i have no sympathy for nazis. they want to hate everything and everyone, let them be miserable in their little hate worlds.

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        17 hours ago

        You realize you think like them and they think like you, right? Dehumanizing someone unequivocally and wishing ill upon them is the easy and default human condition you find yourself living in right now.

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          Historically, the mongers of violence and war have only been ended by stronger violence and better war strategies and resources. The whole take the higher road and tolerance thing is what got America into this current mess in the first place. These assholes are cowards and only come out when there are no consequences, but go back into hiding when there are.

          People should not be punched in the nose for their race, religion, sexuality, gender, etc., basically who they are. People should be punched in the noise for being assholes, their bad behaviour.

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          i do realize that and it weighs on me, and i hate it, but i refuse to tolerate intolerance.

          I am fully willing to have rational conversations with maga, but after trying 100s of times and making no progress, i see no reason to continue with the olive branch. i would have better luck teaching my dog mandrin, than making maga see reason or have empathy.

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            Exactly. Some of these people are literally our fucking parents, and even they refuse to listen to reason.

            They are lost.

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            It’s a fascinating social construct: Once enough chronological years are accumulated, expertise is expected. Obviously though, points at everything, that’s a fallacy. They’re literally clinically retarded. It’s uncouthe to fight the retarded.

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      21 hours ago

      The problem is that you can’t separate most of MAGA from the hate. If a black person in Mississippi benefits from a federal state service, that cannot be tolerated, even if many whites benefit as well.

      It’s more important to protect a non-viable embryo, according to these people, than to protect the mother’s life or health.

      I feel like King Theoden from LotR, who says “What can men do against such reckless hate?” Though, it’s valid to substitute “hatred” with “stupidity”