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    Scammers won’t need to social engineer grandma into giving out her SSN, they can just ask her AI many times and eventually, it will spit out absolutely everything.

    Interesting Defcon presentation about how AI is a security nightmare:

    DEF CON 33 - Exploiting Shadow Data from AI Models and Embeddings - Patrick Walsh

    https://youtu.be/O7BI4jfEFwA

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    You have been warned. We’re still doing it, but at least we did warn you. The fuckery of MicroShit knows no bounds.

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    My mom is a retired nursing instructor, I’ve picked up a few things over the years. This is going to be fun when a HIPA violation occurs via MS A.I.

    Honestly any industry where you see confidential information or proprietary information, could pose a massive threat to customers. Just knowing how much of a product your competitors are shipping to a location can tell you a lot of what they are planning.

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      I work in healthcare (maintenance) and our computer system is so fucking locked down, I’m sure CoPilot will have some similar way of being shackled. I was surprised to learn that the terminal isn’t locked, until I fooled around some and realized that every possible command was individually blocked.

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        I work IT at a university that does medical research, and the doctors and their assistants are by FAR the biggest security pit among all the demographics: staff, students, various faculties. You could tell them you were official password inspector and flash an ID written in crayon on a used napkin and they’d just “yeah whatever, here you go, stop bothering me”.

        They’d get chewed into paste by their directors after the inevitable happened and their compatriots would learn NOTHING.

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        Nah, why get rid of it if you can get exclusions for just AI, like they are doing for other stuff like copyright.

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          Yeah keep the law around in case you need to weaponize it against an individual, but ignore it for corporations. The modern solution!

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            Yep. Waiting for the day I pull up to the dispensary to find it surrounded by ICE vans.

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        At some point, all that juicy sweet medical data will be worth the 8 figure bribe to several congressmen to allow thebsale of access to the data for ‘research’ use to amazon and google.

        All that data is private, until it isnt.

        Dont be so innocent to think that hipaa data will never be sold, it will be eventually

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    Where are the techbros that warned me of malware since W10 is EOL? Do you like your new AI built-in malware, cunts?

    God, I gotta switch to Mint for good…

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    What if I were to tell you the security risk was inside the OS all this time?

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    Um, just in case, I’ll have you know that I name all my folders “trans porn”. It doesn’t mean anything in particular.

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      I think I may have caused some confusion and after some research I can see why.

      Naturally I was referring to transistors and transformers, and pictures thereof. Ha ha lol guys can we forget this now?

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      A volume of NTFS that is filled entirely by folders named “trans porn” would mean that there isn’t a single folder in there that contains 2 folders.

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        New organizing system just dropped. It’s just a chain of five thousand trans porn folders. The depth means something to the creator.

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            I think I could honestly get away with 128 deep paths. I don’t use more than twenty unique folders in my day-to-day computing. It might be difficult to get the various programs on board with my trans porn name for each folder, but that’s what tinkering is for, eh?

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            Did you post the wrong link? Yours is about “Maximum Path Length Limitation” and the number 128 doesn’t appear anywhere on that page. The max path length is 256 characters.

            Where did you read that “you can now have 128 files in your filesystem?”

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              If you want to encode information into only the depth of your recursive identically named folders, you have 128 different depths, one character for the name, one for the slash, per level. Yields about 128 possible levels. Leave one off for the last filename, 127.

              If we want to name our folders something longer than a single character, we can store less files. If we want to store our files on linux, by default we get 4096 characters to play with, so about 2k levels (unless we compile our own linux kernel with PATH_MAX set for this very specific purpose). If we run CIFS we may be able to reach up to 16k levels.

              That was my interpretation of OPs (admittedly bad) idea. Personally, I try to avoid implementing inodes as Church numerals.

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    So going forward, social engineering will also be applicable to some computers themselves instead of just the users.

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      You need to renounce your wicked lifestyle and follow the teachings of our Lord and Saviour, Linus Torvalds!

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                I did the tidal ABX test, which I prefer since it’s comparing FLAC, and the difference is almost negligible. I do hear a slight difference >15k, and I can only year up to 18.5k, but on most tracks it’s not noticeable. Also slightly worse transients, but again, only noticable on a few tracks. I also can only hear any of this on HD600s with very, very high volume, which is not how I usually listen to music. I really like this test :)

                Lossless is still nice to have though, mostly because I can then rip FLAC files to do good remasters, which is why I happily use tidal (also for a number of other reasons).

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          I am not using Apple Music, but have you tried the Windows client via Proton? I used Amazon Music installed through Heroic Launcher in the past and it worked fine. Though I had to configure the audio to go above 48kHz.

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            I’m not the one you’re asking, but I’m in a similar situation. I’ve attemped to get this working and the problem is that their Windows client must be downloaded and installed through the Microsoft Store and it’s packaged in a way you can’t run in standalone after extracting it. Some apps published through the MS Store do work fine this way, but I could not get it working for the Apple Music client.

            Apple Music does have a web player, but it is also limited to lossy streaming like alternative clients like Cider is.

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              Ah, I see, that’s a shame. Amazon had/has an alternative installer. I am trying Tidal now, which has several Linux apps that provide full quality, though even the browser version goes up to 16bit/44.1kHz I think.

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          Do you mean lossless audio in general or specifically Apple Music?

          I’ve definitely listened to flac files on Linux but a lot of the finer points of high quality audio are lost on me so my input may not be useful.

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          Hey there! What I do on Linux is use the Thorium browser to make the Apple Music an app in the OS. It works really well, but does have some weird visual glitches every now and then. I chalk that up to me having an NVIDIA GPU and using Wayland though, so it could work better for you!

          As for lossless, I am not sure on that as I don’t have ears that can tell the difference so it has never been something I focused on!

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        I’ve got an old Mac I’ve managed to get running Sequoia but due to Apple dropping support for Intel, it’s running on borrowed time.

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      Many people need to use computers and Windows for 8 hours a day, every working day + AI shoved into personal apps. I wouldn’t expect even the world’s best escort to be giving head continuously for 8+ hours a day, 5 days a week.

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        I am a system admin and decided to just use Windows Server on my desktop to avoid the bullshit Windows 11 changes

        Server has its own set of problems but at least the tools to deal with them are prepackaged

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          Why not use LTSC instead? It shouldn’t include many of these changes it has done or will do. I know since windows 10 the separation between workstation and server has deepened and I believe app compatability is less due to it. I even remember a few apps I wanted to install on server wouldnt let me unless I buy a business license because it detected I was using server and assumed I was a business because of the OS.

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            I’m working in server all day anyway. Licences are not a issue with most desktop software that we use. We have almost unlimited access to the Microsoft catalog with a combination of our subscriptions. As a system administrator doing what I do, it’s not much different from ltsc except I have to use a couple of local group policies so I’m not badgered by system prompts

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      One of the reasons why I never dual boot. Unfucking GRUB is not on my priority lists.

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        Only dualboot with windows on a separate drive, that hasn’t given me any issues in the past 5 years or so

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          Just make sure to unplug all non-Windows drives when installing Windows. Otherwise it can do weird things like making unilateral decisions on which exact drive it shoves its bootloader on. I’ve wiped my Linux drive when changing to another distro aaaaand the Windows bootloader was gone too. It really shouldn’t have been.

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            Yeah whenever I set up a computer with dual boot it’s always Windows first, then Linux. Windows assumes it’s the only OS that exists so if there’s something else there it just ignores it and writes over the boot thingy. Linux actually bothers to look for anything else that’s installed and works around it.

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          Same here. I have Windows 10 on a separate physical disk (sdb). I have Linux and GRUB on sda, so Windows has no idea that it’s not the only OS on my computer.

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      I had this happen before but not in recent times. Not sure if others have experienced the same.

      For a while I had my bootloader on a single drive but I now have my Linux bootloader on /dev/sda and my windows on /dev/sdb and toggle it in the bios when I need to use Windows. I haven’t had Windows overwrite anything in a long time. Could be a coincidence though.

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        It’s mostly an issue when you have them sharing boot drives via partitions. If you keep them isolated to their own separate drives, Windows doesn’t tend to muck with things. It’s because Windows is bad about killing bootloaders, and automatically setting itself as the default in the boot order. So if you have it sharing a drive, it’ll nuke your boot. But if you don’t have them sharing a drive, and boot via a loader on the Linux drive, there is no boot loader on the Windows drive to nuke.

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        I’ve read that dual booting Windows and Linux can have temperamental quirks and I’ve had my share of them.

        Now, if I’m doing that, Windows fs gets isolated and I refuse to even connect it to the internet. But, outside of a legacy automotive shop program meant for XP, I’ve not needed Windows for a couple years.

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    Planning on spending a months wages building a monster rig that runs Windows 11?

    Cool. When it’s done just take whatever your CPU, GPU, RAM is and reduce the number by 50-75%. Have fun.

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    Why? Who’s asking for this stuff, is there somebody out there who is really pleased with this news or is Microsoft really just that out of touch.

    I don’t want to have to start wearing rainbow knee-length socks, but Microsoft are pushing me towards it.

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      Consumers are not the main driver of profit, speculative value is. Microsoft knows that Windows is guaranteed to be on the majority of PC’s, which means they can afford to implement hostile features that increase the speculative value on data collection and AI investment.

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        This is well said. So many people don’t get that of course these companies know you hate this shit.

        They’re just trying to boost their stock value and violate your privacy harder.

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        Once you realize this, you also realize that there’s no going back for them either. If by some slim chance there’s enough resistance for them to pause or rollback some features, it’s only temporary. The overall course remains clear and they will continue to move in that direction regardless.

        There disdain for you as a consumer could not be made any clearer.

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          Their, as in the disdain microsoft has for the user, not there, as in microsoft put the disdain in a box and it’s sitting across the room over there. However, your point is valid and stands.

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              Probably be less angry about grammar and spelling “nazis.” I’m guilty of those mistakes too, so I am not above being corrected myself.

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          Yeah exactly. Sucks if you have a job that forces you to use Windows though, which is largely how MS has this stanglehold on PC share. Once this becomes an expensive security risk, maybe more businesses will switch to paid Linux OS’s.

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      I work in IT for businesses and the number of times I’ve had to debunk AI slop hallucinations as actual troubleshooting information is not zero.

      “Yes, I can see the instructions say to check that checkbox, however, that checkbox does not exist” (screenshot of relevant control panel).

      This is just evidence, to me, that business types are already relying on AI instead of doing any actual thought or research on any topic they don’t already have a deep understanding of, or are too lazy to bother with.

      Consumers are not driving this change.

      The worst part is that it’s an echo chamber of yes-men that seem to be pushing for it. The AI enthusiasts trying to sell their crap, convincing the middle managers that they need their AI crap, and them buying it and asking for more/better AI crap, and the cycle continues. At no point does any of the output of any AI system provide any unique insight, or value, to anyone. The rest of us are being dragged along for the ride, regardless of what we want.

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      I don’t think MS is out of touch with what the customer wants, I think they just stopped listening.

      The fact is nobody is asking for this stuff.

      I think the hope is that they build it anyway and then people will use/want it. AI is the big buzzword of the decade, just like ‘cloud’ was the big buzzword of last decade.

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        my hope is that they implement it and we get another wave of people on linux

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          A nice thought.
          Unfortunately the only ones who switch will be people 1. Know that it is even possible to switch/that they have an option to switch, and 2. Have the technical knowledge to back up their data, then download and install Linux, that 3. Don’t have to run Windows for other reasons and/or haven’t already switched.

          Unfortunately with all three qualifiers you aren’t left with a giant number. Certainly no mass exodus.

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            i think the steam machine will help. it’s a computer that’s bound to be popular for more normie kind of people, and runs linux.

            plenty of technical people left to switch too, that haven’t been so annoyed just yet.

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      In theory, I could use an AI for doing stuff. For example, opening ripped videos, finding the timestamp where the episode name is given, and then copying that into the video’s filename. Afterwards, it can open Handbrake, use my preferred settings for audio and subs, then start the conversion of multiple files.

      However, this is all predicated on the AI not doing unwanted things - such as giving Microsoft my personal information, preferences in hentai, and passwords.

      Someday I will use agentic AI, but it will be on my terms.

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      I’ve read this exact questions tens of times now. This is capitalism. Now why would a for profit company ever do anything? I leave you to your deductions.

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          Oh, the greybeard stereotype, for sure. Carrying the weight required for the ‘classic RMS’ look isn’t good for your health. Cute twinks in knee-high socks carrying a blahaj are much better, everyone loves them.

          Now, the fully-actuated fursuit for if you want to be taken seriously as a sysadmin? That’s an expensive hobby.

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            Just a bit misgendery for my tastes. Also some right wing people have glommed onto the whole femboy thing. There is 100% a femboy-fascist pipeline.

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      Woah woah woah, lot’s not compare fabulous knee high rainbow socks with the malware MS is putting in their OS. That’s not fair to rainbows or socks.

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        The implication is that they’ll have to jump ship to Linux, and thus become a member of the unixsocks community.

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      The tech industry puts bazillions of dollars into AI development and now it has to put AI literally everywhere to make it look somehow useful. Whether the customer / user wants this or not. I guess they are hoping that people will eventually like it.

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      The socks have a bit of a learning curve, depending on what you want to do with them, but it’s worth it. It’s such a huge relief to not care how much more Windows is getting enshittified this week, since it’s not my problem anymore.

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    with all the tech ceos suddenly “sounding the alarm” about the AI bubble bursting and shoveling “bloatware/spyware” into all thier devices and softwares its not really surprising.