• funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works
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    11 hours ago

    I keep seeing this advice but honestly I’d rather spend years in a El Salavadorean prison wrongly convicted with the hope of being freed than die immediately in a hail of bullets, or be rightfully imprisoned for life for killing a cop.

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      10 hours ago

      You can imagine being freed from a concentration camp but can’t imagine successful community defense.

      Cops don’t want to die in a hail of bullets either. There are more of us than them.

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        9 hours ago

        It’s purely a numbers thing. You shoot at a cop and you die. You go in a concentration camp and you might die. Even if it’s very likely, just personally speaking, I’d take that over certain death.

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          7 hours ago

          The important part is to not be the only person with the gun around. Personal defence won’t do much but community defense might.

          But seriously. Nobody is coming back from El Salvador. If ICE comes for you you might as well take one with you.

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          9 hours ago

          It’s OK to not want to harm another person. Another thing that may be more important is to prepare yourself to handle some intense questioning along with threats of winding up in a place like that (if you think your chances are better in there). I’m not judging you but don’t be a rat

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          9 hours ago

          Some things are worse than death and can be sustained without any form of honesty or due process right here in the United States

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      10 hours ago

      The official stance is that nobody will ever get out of that prison alive. Literally. It’s one very specific prison, and it’s reduced El Salvador’s violent crime rate to damn near zero because of how fucked up that prison is, and how little due process you’ll receive if you even just get caught having gang tattoos. They don’t need to connect you to any specific crime.

      You’ll share the cell with like 40 other dudes, and you all share one communal water barrel and one communal shit pit. The food is specifically designed to not be nutritious enough to sustain any muscle mass. You’ll wish for death in there, but you can’t even commit suicide by another inmate. Even suicide by guard is hard to pull off.

      I’d honestly take the bullet over CECOT.

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      10 hours ago

      I mean, if by “years” you mean less than a year, killed, and buried in a mass grave in El Salvador than sure.

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        9 hours ago

        This is in comparison to getting in a firefight with the police? I’m sorry, but yes, I’d rather take my chances. Shooting at the police is, even if the odds are close, more likely to get you killed.

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      10 hours ago

      Death is far from the worst thing that can happen to someone. We all must walk with the reaper some day. I would much rather die on my feet than live on my knees. CECOT is not living, it is Hell. I would infanetly prefer to go to Valhalla than CECOT.