A call to overturn the landmark Supreme Court decision legalizing same-sex marriage nationwide is on the agenda Friday for the justices' closed-door conference.
If Democrats are ever able to win again they need to expand and pack the Court. However, that was already true before 2024 and they refused and if they had won in 2024 they would continue to refuse. Democrats do not take this threat seriously.
Kind of a chicken-and-egg problem. The only way Democrats would ever consider packing the Court is if the Court was hopelessly rigged against them (even more than it already was, I mean) but by the very fact that the Court is rigged they might not ever be allowed to win another election because a 6-3 Court would probably let Trump cancel elections.
Basically the whole system is fucked. Tear it down.
Packing the court isn’t an option unless you also make it impossible for anyone else to pack the court.
Let’s say a Democrat wins in '28 and decides to expand the court from 9 to 13. +4. That flips the 6-3 majority to a 7-6 majority.
The next elected Republican will just expand it to 15, flipping it back.
We could lock it in with a Constitutional Amendment saying that the Supreme Court must be made up of one member from each Circuit Court, of which there are currently 13. The numbered courts 1-11, plus DC and the Fed.
Maybe even add age limits and term limits while we’re at it.
But man, the bar on an amendment is too high to pass now. 2/3rds of the House and Senate, then ratification from 38 states.
Not opposed to option 1, but I’d rather see it being part of the RICO act, round them all up as domestic enemies of the Constitution.
Option 2 may be worse than what we have currently. 🤣 You’d have people with no knowledge of the law making legal decisions and in a way where they are completely uninformed.
You want “Idiocracy”? Because that’s how you get “Idiocracy”. 😉
I don’t buy these anti-democracy talking points, the problem in the US has always been that we have too little democracy.
The People are often ahead of the Supreme Court historically - look at same sex marriage. Same sex marriage approval crossed the 50% threshold in 2011 but the Court didn’t reach that conclusion until 2015. Go back farther and look at segregation - the majority of the US approved of desegregating schools and busses at the time of the ruling. If this was a democracy we’d have had those rights possibly earlier because the Court is either in-line with or behind public opinion.
And I know for a fact that a democratic Supreme Court wouldn’t have ruled in Citizens United that bribery is legal.
We wouldn’t really be using our electoral system if everyone was a Supreme Court Justice, it’d be a much more direct voting system without an electoral college and if no result got >50% the Court would be hung and there would be no decision.
If Democrats are ever able to win again they need to expand and pack the Court. However, that was already true before 2024 and they refused and if they had won in 2024 they would continue to refuse. Democrats do not take this threat seriously.
Kind of a chicken-and-egg problem. The only way Democrats would ever consider packing the Court is if the Court was hopelessly rigged against them (even more than it already was, I mean) but by the very fact that the Court is rigged they might not ever be allowed to win another election because a 6-3 Court would probably let Trump cancel elections.
Basically the whole system is fucked. Tear it down.
Packing the court isn’t an option unless you also make it impossible for anyone else to pack the court.
Let’s say a Democrat wins in '28 and decides to expand the court from 9 to 13. +4. That flips the 6-3 majority to a 7-6 majority.
The next elected Republican will just expand it to 15, flipping it back.
We could lock it in with a Constitutional Amendment saying that the Supreme Court must be made up of one member from each Circuit Court, of which there are currently 13. The numbered courts 1-11, plus DC and the Fed.
Maybe even add age limits and term limits while we’re at it.
But man, the bar on an amendment is too high to pass now. 2/3rds of the House and Senate, then ratification from 38 states.
True, but I see two solutions.
Pack the Court and then use the packed Court to dismantle the Republican Party so they can never win again.
Make every US adult a Supreme Court member and let them all vote on cases. Just turn it into a direct democracy.
Not opposed to option 1, but I’d rather see it being part of the RICO act, round them all up as domestic enemies of the Constitution.
Option 2 may be worse than what we have currently. 🤣 You’d have people with no knowledge of the law making legal decisions and in a way where they are completely uninformed.
You want “Idiocracy”? Because that’s how you get “Idiocracy”. 😉
I don’t buy these anti-democracy talking points, the problem in the US has always been that we have too little democracy.
The People are often ahead of the Supreme Court historically - look at same sex marriage. Same sex marriage approval crossed the 50% threshold in 2011 but the Court didn’t reach that conclusion until 2015. Go back farther and look at segregation - the majority of the US approved of desegregating schools and busses at the time of the ruling. If this was a democracy we’d have had those rights possibly earlier because the Court is either in-line with or behind public opinion.
And I know for a fact that a democratic Supreme Court wouldn’t have ruled in Citizens United that bribery is legal.
You have more faith in the voting public than I do. 🤣 This is the same bunch that elected Trump twice, a second time after 34 felony convictions.
Trump has never gotten more than 50% of the vote.
Don’t have to thanks to our screwed up voting system. Bill Clinton didn’t either.
We wouldn’t really be using our electoral system if everyone was a Supreme Court Justice, it’d be a much more direct voting system without an electoral college and if no result got >50% the Court would be hung and there would be no decision.
Honestly better than our shitty elections.