Following Tuesday night’s resounding victory for Democrats across the country, Donald Trump came up with a long to-do list Wednesday morning that he thinks is the solution to what ails Republicans. And bizarrely, during his postelection meltdown, he claimed that Americans need ID to buy groceries.

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      “Nothing bad can happen; only good happen” and “everything’s computer” are both quotes from Trump during this term.

      If you try to take his words and phrasing at face value, only reading what is explicitly stated, you end up with nothing. The man speaks like a toddler quite often.

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        Let’s give the guy who literally lies about everything every single day the benefit of the doubt!

        Just stop.

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          This isn’t about giving him the benefit of any doubt; this is about what he said vs. What he didn’t say, and realizing that the man couldn’t articulate a point to save his life.

          “Just stop”

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            He didn’t leave any gaps unsaid.

            “All we want is voter ID, you go to a grocery store, you have to give ID, you go to a gas station, you give ID, but for voting, they want no voter ID. It’s only for one reason, and it’s because they cheat. We would pass that in 15 minutes,” Trump ranted, seeming to slur his words at times. “If you don’t get it, you’ll never pass that. You’ll never talk about mail-in ballots. Mail-in ballots make it automatically corrupt.”

            He literally said you need ID at the grocery store and gas station but not voting which is the exact opposite of my experience yesterday when I did not need an ID for a grocery store or gas station but I did have to present it to vote because of shitty state laws. You are trying to figure out some way to make his irrational and ignorant lies somehow reasonable for whatever reason. Stop that, he has proven his opinions are as ignorant and stupid as they appear to be when he doubles down on them over and over again despite being told he is wrong.

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        Do you know where that quote is from, though? It’s from a Trump rally before covid. “You need an ID to buy groceries” is a well known right wing meme. He repeats this lie because it advances the right wing idea that American elections are influenced by left wing radicals and illegal immigrants who fraudulently vote. It’s not based in any kind of truth and never was.

        He doesn’t repeat this phrase because he’s an imbecile. (He is an imbecile, but that’s not why he repeats this phrase.) He repeats this phrase because it’s propaganda. It’s got the illusion of truth. “You need an ID to buy groceries” sounds close enough to the truth that people who already agree with the point he’s making won’t question it.

        Showing ID is a common and normal.

        therefore

        Requiring an ID to vote is not a burden.

        Propaganda doesn’t have to be accurate, it just needs to feel relatable. Don’t excuse Trump for saying these things.

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          I’m not excusing him, I’m saying the article is stretching what he said. The narrative he’s pushing is wrong and the point he’s trying to make is painfully stupid: but making shit up isn’t a good rebuke.

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            Ok my mistake I guess, because what you said sounded a lot like “Why does everyone take him seriously? He’s a moron.” Whereas he’s repeating a knowingly false claim on purpose and I don’t really see where the article is stretching what he said.

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              Okay I can see how you read it that way. NP. Yes, he should be taken seriously, that’s why I tried to emphasize with ‘dangerous.’

              I’ve never heard the claim as stated in the article before. As for why I interpret it to be “stretching”, maybe this person’s reply and mine would help give context as to where I’m coming at this from.

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            1. This is Leopard Ate My Face, not News.
            2. This toddler’s words are making life hell for everyone who isn’t white because is the president.

            Liberal or not, I don’t tolerate that dismissive attitude when this is the fucking president.

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              Firstly, pointing out the community hardly seems relevant when nothing about this article fits with the theme.

              Secondly, fuck off then? I hate the guy. I’m dismissive of garbage writing of a garbage article from a garbage outlet. There are plenty of things to be concerned and angry about, but this isn’t even worth the very letters I’m typing right now. If you don’t like my comment: downvote, block, move on.

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                I’m dismissive of garbage writing of a garbage article from a garbage outlet.

                Then ignore it.