• rockandsock@lemmy.world
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    2 hours ago

    I like MMA in general.

    The UFC has been kind of scummy for a long time because of the way they have consistently underpaid the athletes while also cutting off their other sources of making money like their individual sponsorship deals.

    Its gotten much worse since the Fertitta brothers sold it. Now there’s no one to curb Dana Whites worst impulses, no one stopping him from indulging in his petty grievances with the athletes and playing favorites, I’ll include a couple of examples.

    He fired lots of fighters for hitting women, Jon Jones has has at least two incidents of domestic violence and is still in good standing with the UFC.

    Tom Aspinall seems like a good dude. Somehow he’s the bad guy in the eyes of the UFC for not continuing a fight after taking multiple eye pokes in a recent fight.

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    5 hours ago

    My friends and I used to watch the PPVs when we were actively doing Brazilian Jujutsu. But at some point it felt like it transitioned into WWE and less about watching a really good martial arts.

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    19 hours ago

    The fighters are great athletes and it can be fun to watch.

    But the fans are total knobs. I’d never go to a live event nor pay the insane prices for PPV

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      16 hours ago

      I’ve seen lots of people say how bad the fans are but I’m not sure why. Other sports have riots and hooliganism. I personally have never experienced an MMA fan engage in negative group behavior like that.

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    20 hours ago

    I like the JiuJitsu but there’s plenty of competition for that without the repeated concussive trauma of striking. I don’t like seeing people getting concussion for sport.

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      12 hours ago

      I’d agree jujitsu can be fun to watch, but really only if you know what you’re looking at. You see a punch land you know damage just occurred, the untrained eye sees a wrist/arm in the wrong place has no idea how close a sub may be. I hear you on the concussion aspect and it is an unfortunate reality of the sport. I wish more money was being spent on research into CTE and treatments.

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    1 day ago

    The UFC is in bed with inhuman American right-wing imperialists but MMA is cool af, and perhaps the only sport my hyperactive and inattentive brain can watch without getting bored 3 mins in, lol.

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      16 hours ago

      Yeah I’d agree with both parts of that haha. Unfortunately most organizations have had shitty ties in the past. Whether that be to corruption, organized crime or our current president.

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    1 day ago

    I appreciate the skill/technicalities of the sport and that it’s not simply two people beating each other up. However, there’s a pretty large chunk of fans that are basically toxic masculinity and incels. And the UFC organization is shitty.

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    I side-eye vocal fans of UFC like I do owners of pit bulls. I see a strong correlation between UFC fans and assholes with warped machismo. Many are delightful, but there’s an overrepresentation of not-delightful and potentially dangerous with no regard for other people. My guard is up until I know which a person is.

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      The most annoying part about that is those shit heads are usually casual fans who cant name more than 3 or 4 fighters. I hear you though.

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    24 hours ago

    I don’t see the appeal of watching two guys beat each other up. But if it keeps them from raping and pillaging then I guess knock yourselves out.

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    1 day ago

    MMA’s had a great impact on traditional martial arts. It made people think about what to do if you come across a grappler, and specifically a ground-fighting specialist. Previously, among the major TMAs only judo really thought about it. The dishonest dojos will say something like: I just won’t let them get that close. Which is BS. The more honest dojos will say something like: that’s not really our focus, but we sometimes have a visitor do a seminar on that.

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          I think it made Traditional Martial Arts dojos modulate their claims. It provided a venue of “live” instead of scripted adversaries in a variety of styles, which made it difficult for unscrupulous TMA dojos to make claims about how powerful their arts are. (i.e. you can just say “why don’t you go use it in MMA?”) Of course there’s still value in TMAs: exercise, discipline, competitions, skills like punching and falling and kicking, etc. And MMA has its limitations too, it’s just another rule-based competition, see Rory Miller’s “Meditations on Violence” for one discussion on this.