We don’t know if CIA was involved or party to any of that violence though. That’s why condoning CIA help doesn’t mean they’re immediately condoning covert murders or kicking puppies (hah) or other things you compared it to.
If you want to know what they are specifically condoning, you could try to achieve that by asking them. Now we’re just talking about what they could have meant.
I think for most people there’s a line between them helping the Yanukovych ousting succeed in non-violent ways and CIA using or being party to violence to achieve that. But everyone has their own line, you drew it at helping at all.
I think you misunderstood. Not drawing a line would mean you condone everything. Nothing would be too much. You’re drawing a line at any sort of help CIA might’ve given, with the reasoning that it is imperialism. So that’s your line
Ok. You might have a point that I condemn imperialism.
However, that was not my initial point. My initial point was how easily imperialism is overlooked if the “good guys” are doing it. Pure James Bond shit.
Imperialism includes covert violence.
Do you think the Euromaidan was completely violence free? Ukrainian military has bombed eastern Ukraine for years after Euromaidan.
We don’t know if CIA was involved or party to any of that violence though. That’s why condoning CIA help doesn’t mean they’re immediately condoning covert murders or kicking puppies (hah) or other things you compared it to.
If you want to know what they are specifically condoning, you could try to achieve that by asking them. Now we’re just talking about what they could have meant.
It’s still imperialism. I’ve stated that they condone imperialism. Nothing more (kicking puppies), nothing less (political violence).
But that’s why the comparison to explicitly condoning violence doesn’t work
I don’t think that there’s much of a difference between one (imperialism) and the other (political violence).
I’m condemning imperialism not because of the violence, but rather because I’m anti-state.
I think for most people there’s a line between them helping the Yanukovych ousting succeed in non-violent ways and CIA using or being party to violence to achieve that. But everyone has their own line, you drew it at helping at all.
With all due respect: I drew jack shit of a line.
Projecting your poliyical power to your political favour outside your own state’s territory is the definition of imperialism.
I called it imperialism, because it is imperialism. Nothing more, nothing less.
I think you misunderstood. Not drawing a line would mean you condone everything. Nothing would be too much. You’re drawing a line at any sort of help CIA might’ve given, with the reasoning that it is imperialism. So that’s your line
Ok. You might have a point that I condemn imperialism.
However, that was not my initial point. My initial point was how easily imperialism is overlooked if the “good guys” are doing it. Pure James Bond shit.