I mean, Han Solo did the same. I don’t think that Lucas thought that it would really be much more than the three movies, and evidently didn’t come up with much lore or backstory. I don’t think they ever touched on what happened to Darth Vader and Sidious that put them into power (it’s been a few years since I’ve seen them, could be wrong). Closest thing we got was a mention of the Clone Wars, with about no description of it.
Lucas didn’t even plan for Vader to be Luke’s father at the start. Leigh Brackett, the main scriptwriter for ESB, never even knew that (she died of cancer when the script was in the final stages). That’s why there’s this awkward “certain point of view” discussion with Obi-wan in RotJ to explain away the cave conversation in the first movie; Lucas didn’t plan that from the beginning, and he had to patch over a plot hole.
i’m not familiar enough with the source material to know what these conversations were offhand. little help? links to parts of the script or youtubes or whatevers?
In the original “Star Wars” (now known as “Star Wars: Episode IV- A New Hope”), Luke asks Obi-Wan how his father died. Obi-Wan tells him “A young Jedi named Darth Vader, who was a pupil of mine before he turned to evil, helped the Empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi Knights. He betrayed and murdered you father.”
In “Return of the Jedi”, (Episode VI) Luke sees a ‘Force Ghost’ of Obi-Wan. Luke asks him “Why didn’t you tell me? You told me Vader betrayed and murdered my father.” Obi-Wan responds “Your father was seduced by the Dark Side of the Force. He ceased to be Anakin Skywalker and became Darth Vader. When that happened the good man who was your father was destroyed. So what I told you was true- from a certain point of view.”
No problem :) I’m not exactly sure what they meant by “cave conversation” unless they mistook Obi-Wan’s hut for a cave.
I am admittedly biased and possibly influenced by nostalgia, but in my opinion the original Trilogy holds up quite well, and is actually the best trilogy. If you haven’t watched them before I highly recommend them, especially if you are interested in Star Wars.
excuse me the best trilogy is 5 > 3 > 8. Luke finds out who his father is, spends time learning about his father’s past, then becomes a hermit and dies of depression. it’s got arcs and everything
I mean, Han Solo did the same. I don’t think that Lucas thought that it would really be much more than the three movies, and evidently didn’t come up with much lore or backstory. I don’t think they ever touched on what happened to Darth Vader and Sidious that put them into power (it’s been a few years since I’ve seen them, could be wrong). Closest thing we got was a mention of the Clone Wars, with about no description of it.
Lucas didn’t even plan for Vader to be Luke’s father at the start. Leigh Brackett, the main scriptwriter for ESB, never even knew that (she died of cancer when the script was in the final stages). That’s why there’s this awkward “certain point of view” discussion with Obi-wan in RotJ to explain away the cave conversation in the first movie; Lucas didn’t plan that from the beginning, and he had to patch over a plot hole.
He very much made it up as he went.
i’m not familiar enough with the source material to know what these conversations were offhand. little help? links to parts of the script or youtubes or whatevers?
In the original “Star Wars” (now known as “Star Wars: Episode IV- A New Hope”), Luke asks Obi-Wan how his father died. Obi-Wan tells him “A young Jedi named Darth Vader, who was a pupil of mine before he turned to evil, helped the Empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi Knights. He betrayed and murdered you father.”
In “Return of the Jedi”, (Episode VI) Luke sees a ‘Force Ghost’ of Obi-Wan. Luke asks him “Why didn’t you tell me? You told me Vader betrayed and murdered my father.” Obi-Wan responds “Your father was seduced by the Dark Side of the Force. He ceased to be Anakin Skywalker and became Darth Vader. When that happened the good man who was your father was destroyed. So what I told you was true- from a certain point of view.”
thanks. i was trying to figure out what the cave conversation was, like “luke! look out for that wampa”
No problem :) I’m not exactly sure what they meant by “cave conversation” unless they mistook Obi-Wan’s hut for a cave.
I am admittedly biased and possibly influenced by nostalgia, but in my opinion the original Trilogy holds up quite well, and is actually the best trilogy. If you haven’t watched them before I highly recommend them, especially if you are interested in Star Wars.
excuse me the best trilogy is 5 > 3 > 8. Luke finds out who his father is, spends time learning about his father’s past, then becomes a hermit and dies of depression. it’s got arcs and everything
Exactly. We have to ignore a couple lines that don’t make much sense, but that’s not a big obstacle to enjoying the stories.