• Knightfox@lemmy.world
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    21 hours ago

    Nursing homes and welfare homes are good at getting rid of bedbug infestations

    They’re only good at it because without getting rid of bed bugs no one would choose to live there. If prisoners got to pick between prisons that had bed bugs and those that didn’t I would imagine prisons would get good at removing them as well.

    And Israel’s sexual torture of Palestinian detainees is well documented with even video evidence shown on TV.

    Ok, then give some evidence to support that, that’s what I asked for.

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        20 hours ago

        These are disturbing links, if at face value they are true then this is truly disturbing. That said most of the information comes from second or third hand sources. It’s entirely possible that some Israeli’s are doing these things but it’s hard to believe that this is happening systemically throughout their entire military organization. It’s not forgivable and anyone doing it should be justly punished, but it seems crazy to assume that the mistreatment of prisoners is across the board as others have alleged.

        I might be on the wrong side of history here, but it’s a bit hard to believe that jews in Israel are raping men, women, and children left and right.

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          Oh come on, you’re still refusing to accept what your own eyes can see. Let me reiterate by sharing a video of 10 IDF terrorists gang raping a Palestinian prisoner so brutally, his anus and colon had to be surgically reconstructed:

          https://nitter.poast.org/DoubleDownNews/status/1940891365396844890#m

          The government tried to prosecute 6 of the rapist guards because they were under ICC investigation, but then israelis had a literal riot supporting the rapists to free them & the main rapist became a hero paraded around on Israeli TV. Look him up his name is Meir Ben-Shitrit.

          Even Israeli media reports on these crimes. The Israeli military kills Palestinians for far less evidence but when all this overwhelming evidence of war crimes is shown (even the US state department acknowledges it) you’re still skeptical?

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            What my own eyes see? You then sent a video where you can’t see shit, half the video it looks like he’s on the floor and they’re kicking the shit out of him. Also in another comment I stated that a big part of my difficulty to believe the issue is as wide spread as you are saying is because the overall poor standards of evidence and shitty journalism.

            The incident of supposed rape started with a report that a prisoner had been transferred from the Sde Teiman camp with anus and rectal injuries, but every article I can find (from Haaertz, Times of Israel, Middle East Eye, Al Jazeera, and People’s Dispatch) only reference a report without saying where the report came from or who released it, it’s just a report that’s out there but no one knows where. Secondly the IDF went to the prison as part of their investigation and fought the guards because they were refusing to cooperate with military police. Yes right wing Israeli’s rioted, but that’s hardly proof that the entire country is onboard with that and each picture of the riot it’s like 50 people. Furthermore the IDF put one reservist in prison in February 2025 for punching handcuffed and blindfolded prisoners. To prove the point, there are cases going through the Israeli Supreme Court right now to potentially close the prison. The court has not yet decided to close the prison but they phased out long term detention in June 2024, issued a compliance order in September 2024, and in September 2025 made rulings that the government is intentionally denying prisoners adequate nutrition and must meet required prisoner standards.

            Are some Israeli’s or members of the IDF doing these things, probably so, but I have a hard time believing it’s a systemic problem throughout their whole culture especially when no one can seem to provide any actual evidence, the IDF appear to be acting how they should to such allegations, and the country’s supreme court is actively making rulings against the government for the treatment of prisoners.

            The standards of evidence/proof are so shitty that one person can say something on twitter, a journalist uses it as a reference for an article, their article gets copied a dozen times, and suddenly that counts as proof. Then a claim like this escalates with the logic that if it happened over here then it must be happening everywhere.

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          16 hours ago

          Your seemingly level-headed approach to analysing this information would make sense if this, and all of Israel’s other crimes against humanity, weren’t already widely known.

          Imo you don’t actually seem to be acting in bad faith, but it’s pretty shocking that this is news to anyone on Lemmy, where such stories are shared fairly often.

          I might be on the wrong side of history here, but it’s a bit hard to believe that jews in Israel are raping men, women, and children left and right.

          That is not what this implies, but the majority of Israeli citizens are either okay with this kind of thing or they will simply deny it. There are many polls and interviews that show what their society thinks about Palestinians.

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            Largely in part because of an overall poor standard of evidence and multiple different forms of bias to perpetuate “proof.” A lot of people, even here, are pointing to the UN commission reports, but they don’t really look beyond the legitimacy of the UN to determine if it’s accurate.

            The commission is made up of 3 people, at least one of which has made statements about jews controlling social media. In their report on their findings they state that their methodology for their reports was by pairing digital content with victim and witness testimony, but then state that the standard of proof was if 1 or more testimonies corroborated the digital content.

            That’s not proof in my eyes.