Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has stated that Russia is importing petrol, calling it the rightful result of the work of the Security Service, the Armed Forces, intelligence and Ukrainian weapons manufacturers.

Quote: "Today, there were also reports on our entirely justified strikes against Russian targets – against their logistics and fuel infrastructure. I am grateful to our warriors for their precision. Russia chooses war, Russia destroys our people’s lives, and must be held accountable – our long-range capabilities will increase.

  • Sektor@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Demolish how? Russia is still taking ground. We are entering into fourth year of war, and with the exception of Kursk campaign the line is moving only in one direction.

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      1 day ago

      Taking land is the only way to win a war. Outlasting an opponent’s ability/will to fight doesn’t work at all, right?

      Remind me: who controls Afghanistan? You know, that small country that didn’t even have a standing army who fought against the most powerful military on the planet for 20 years … after fighting the Soviets for 10.

      Probably a fluke though – it’s not like that’s repeatedly happened in wars across history.

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        22 hours ago

        True. But also Afghanistan’s climate and terrain make it costly to occupy, and there was no comparable benefit to being there, besides possibly control of the opiate trade. And large-scale mechanized warfare was also horrendously difficult in Afghanistan, but much more possible in Ukraine and vicinity.

        So the Russians left because there was nothing worth stealing that would justify the high casualty rate. The US fucked off because there was no reason to be there besides to slap the Taliban around and kill however many Al-Qaida fighters could be found. But the war aims for the US were never well-articulated, and that led to bizarre rules of engagement that could never achieve more than a holding pattern. The US could have stayed and exterminated every single Talib, but that would have almost inevitably spread the conflict to the Taliban’s sponsors, Pakistan, which has nukes (and a far larger popultation than Afghanistan). Not a good state to destablize.

      • Sektor@lemmy.world
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        18 hours ago

        So you’re saying russians will just pack their things and leave?

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      1 day ago

      just to clarify - taking ground with immense personnel and hardware losses over what it is rendered into a literal moonscape with no infrastructure or housings intact. good luck holding onto that.

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      1 day ago

      Russia hasn’t taken significant ground for years. The front line is stuck, entrenched and static. There might be variations by 10 metres here or there, but it’s basically the same today as 3 years ago.

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        22 hours ago

        Look at how the first world war ended. The front was frozen for about three years, then it suddenly came unstuck. What had changed was crumbling alliances on the Axis side, an increasingly difficult problem with fuel supply (hmm, that sounds familiar), and the need for Germany to maintain some level of military strength for internal repression. So what broke things loose was a gradual loss of German resiliency. That could happen to Russia, too, but it depends on international resolve that may or might not be sufficiently strong. In particular, it’s not clear if Trump is more interested in backstabbing Europe to ingratiate himself with Putin, or backstabbing Putin in order to claim credit for a victory that would actually largely be Zelenskyy’s.

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      23 hours ago

      Meatwave tactics do tend to gain ground, but the midget Pootin is starting to get desperate for warm bodies to send. Pootin the Tiny is resorting to tricking international students into signing up for the meatgrinder, and there are literal waves of ruzzian orcs attacking WHILE ON CRUTCHES! Ruzzian soldiers are encouraged to shoot their own wounded because ruzzia can’t afford to medically treat them, or pay pensions… Ruzzian weapons are proven crap, and getting crappier, and that’s a foreign market ruzzia will, NEVER get back. What ruzzian navy? ROFLOLOLOL!!! Ruzzia has run out of fuel (LOL) and is now an importer of gasoline, while Ukraine permits it. (Hint: Ukraine will be bombing import facilities and infrastructure very soon). The ruzzian economy is in the toilet and about to be flushed, ruzzian elites are grumbling audibly about midget Pootins failures… The entire next generation of ruzzians has fled overseas, or already been turned into sunflower fertilizer. Ruzzia is Donny 2 Inches “third world shithole country”, in every possible way. Third World Ruzzia should try to give their population actual flushing toilets and indoor plumbing, before they start and lose their next war ROFL. No wonder that every ruzzian woman is trying to find a western husband, because this is yet another destroyed generation of ruzzian men. Only the crippled and unemployable violent drunks are going to remain, to populate future ruzzia. What a genetic disaster, hey?

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        22 hours ago

        Only the crippled and unemployable violent drunks are going to remain

        As opposed to the glorious past, when there were also non-crippled and marginally employable violent drunks.

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      You’re wasting your time lmao. If they took Kyiv and jailed all the leadership these delusional libs would claim it’s just Russian propaganda and the real victory is just around the corner like it’s an avengers movie.

      Evidence is beside the point, all that matters is vibes.