Democratic Senator John Fetterman of Pennsylvania continued the Democrats’ piling on against Palestinians this past Sunday.

Fetterman asserted to CNN’s Manu Raju: “There’s no ethnic cleansing. It’s not a genocide. This is a just war.”

Asked by Raju if Israel was using “starvation as a weapon,” he claimed: “No. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Israel is not deliberately starving people, absolutely.”

He added: “Those conditions are miserable there. And it is hell on earth. Why? Some people blame Israel for that? I blame Hamas and Iran for that thing.”

This continues most Democrats’ failure to recognize the Gaza genocide, even walking back the genocide assertion in the recent case of Congresswoman Katherine Clark, a top leader in the House of Representatives.

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    Hamas don’t have the power to stop the genocide, surrender or not.

    This isn’t a war between the IOF and Hamas. It’s a systematic campaign to demolish every building in Gaza and kill or drive away every Gazan.

    I don’t know if you’re ignorant and spreading misinformation or a zionist intentionally spreading disinformation talking points, but either way 'but Hamas!" is not a valid excuse for tolerating genocide.

    Btw, that whole Human Shields thing? Turns out that’s IOF projection. they’ve Been doing it for over half a century. It’s part of their standard procedure.

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      Hamas don’t have the power to stop the genocide, surrender or not.

      How so? There was no genocide between 2006 and the Oct 7 attack.

      I believe IDF has sent civilians into buildings ahead of raids as shields. Not officially sanctioned but haven’t heard of disciplinary measures against it either.

      Apparently in their own words, Hamas base themselves in Hospitals. I haven’t seen the evidence myself and can’t read Arabic anyway.

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        There was no genocide between 2006 and the Oct 7 attack.

        There’s been an ongoing genocide since the Nakba of 1948 FFS! If you’re going to pretend to not be COMPLETELY ignorant, at least get the most basic facts in order.

        I believe IDF

        There’s your problem right there. They have two primary missions: to eradicate Palestinian people, culture, and territory; and to lie about doing so on purpose.

        IDF has sent civilians into buildings ahead of raids as shields

        Amongst many other uses, yes.

        Not officially sanctioned but haven’t heard of disciplinary measures against it

        That’s because it’s de facto sanctioned by the fascist apartheid regime.

        Apparently in their own words, Hamas base themselves in Hospitals.

        Your source of “their own words” being a deleted Reddit post from 10 days ago? Stellar work, Bob Woodward! 🙄

        And guess what? Even if the militant wing of Hamas (as opposed to the civil government of Gaza) DID put bases in or beneath hospitals, it would STILL be a war crime to bomb hospitals.

        Just like when they raided a hospital to murder injured (alleged) Hamas fighters.

        That was ALSO a war crime even if you’re gullible enough to believe the IOF account of what they were doing and why.

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          There was no genocide between 2006 and the Oct 7 attack.

          There’s been an ongoing genocide since the Nakba of 1948

          1948 is before 2006

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              There was no genocide between 2006 and the Oct 7 attack.

              There was nothing approximating genocide in this period. Therefore not “ongoing”. I chose an uncontroversial time period of about 17 years before the October 7 attack. 2006 was when Israel removed their settlements from Gaza. I could go back earlier but it is unnecessary for the point I am making.

              That period was “peaceful” (relative to now) although Hamas/Hezbolah couldn’t let it rest so they kept attacking Israel who retaliated each time and needed their border controls (hence the “open air prison”).

              Therefore that period could be replicated but with 100% peace this time since Hamas and Hezbollah would be dismantled.

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                Yeah, none of that is actually true. It’s now clear that you’re either fundamentally dishonest or fervently believe fundamentally dishonest people.

                Either way, there’s no point trying to pierce your zionist gaslighting bubble, so I’m gonna cease my efforts. Have the day you deserve.

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                  Hurling insults is not an intellectual discussion. The bubble is this Lemmy community,. Although to the credit of the mods they are not censoring me because (I presume) they recognise I am trying to keep it civil.

                  Yes I am a Zionist because that merely means I believe Israel deserves to exist as an ethno-state in the Levant (like the many Muslim ones).

                  Hamas have expressed explicit genocidal intent and you are probably OK with it because… Nakba.