• merc@sh.itjust.works
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    I’d be happy to see her win. But, I don’t think she would have a real shot in 2028.

    Even just ignoring the fact that she’s a woman, relatively young and has non-centrist positions. It’s not common for people whose only political experience is in congress to win the presidency.

    • Biden: Senator then VP
    • Obama: Senator
    • Dubya: Governor
    • Clinton: Governor
    • Bush: VP
    • Reagan: Governor
    • Carter: Governor
    • Ford: VP
    • Johnson: VP
    • JFK: Senator
    • Eisenhower: Supreme Allied Commander, Europe; Military governor of American-occupied sector of Germany
    • Truman: Senator then briefly VP
    • FDR: Governor
    • Hoover: Secretary of commerce, Director of the United States Food Administration
    • Coolidge: Governor then VP
    • Harding: LT Governor then Senator
    • Wilson: Governor
    • Taft: Governor of Cuba, Governor-General of the Philippines
    • Roosevelt: Governor then VP
    • McKinley: Governor
    • Cleveland: Governor
    • Harrison: Senator
    • Cleveland: Governor

    IMO, she really should first run for Governor of NY. Especially if Mamdami wins and she has a strong ally as mayor of NYC. Even a short term as Governor of NYC would give her experience as an executive, which she currently lacks.

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      Maybe I’m an old timer around these parts, but I remember these same exact arguments being used against Obama. “He’s only been a senator for two years, and what was he before that, a “”“community organizer””“?”

      In fact, I’m pretty sure she’s got more political experience, on a national scale, than he did at the point where he as nominated.

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        Some people have been elected president with no political experience. But, the trend is pretty clear.

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        Obama was a constitutional scholar. We can debate academic vs hands on, but he was well versed.

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          AOC is herself, pretty well educated:

          [In high school] She came in second in the microbiology category of the Intel International Science and Engineering Fair in 2007 with a research project on the effect of antioxidants on the lifespan of the nematode Caenorhabditis elegans.[23][24] In a show of appreciation for her efforts, the MIT Lincoln Laboratory named a small asteroid after her: 23238 Ocasio-Cortez.[25][26] In high school, she took part in the National Hispanic Institute’s Lorenzo de Zavala (LDZ) Youth Legislative Session. After graduating, she became the LDZ secretary of state while attending Boston University. Ocasio-Cortez had a John F. Lopez Fellowship.[27]

          That was before she even went to college

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            I’m gonna focus on college and after. But it’s not that just that Obama was educated, he was a practicing lawyer and professor steeped in constitutional law.

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              I mean she graduated cum laude from Boston University with a Bacheslors in International Relations and Economics

              That isn’t nothing.

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                Sigh. I didn’t say it’s not nothing. You’re making up a strawman to argue against.

                I’m highlighting the extensive and impressive qualifications of Obama. They are massively different. You know I started typing more but there’s no point in discussing when you are making up a strawman to argue against. Go look up Obama’s education and career before being president.

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      This list is missing 45/47. If you add his qualifications to the list, then I guess reality show host, felon, rapist, etc are also presidential qualifications, but congressperson is still not one? I think it’s safe to say all norms are out the window now and past performance is not anything to bet on going forward.

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      Hochul is towing the line well enough for now, and there’s a progressive state politician who’s potential run has kept her in check. I’d much rather see AOC primary Schumer.

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        If the goal is to have some good democratic legislators, then probably AOC taking out Schumer would be good. If the goal is to have AOC elected president, she could use some experience as a governor.