It s for the obvious lie about the intent and political association regarding the shooter.
I think him being remove isn’t the great, but he should be oblige to comme back on that statement which was a lie and tell the truth
… he should be oblige to comme back on that statement which was a lie and tell the truth.
Bullshit. This is such a disingenuous argument.
MAGA immediately lied about the shooter being left, making their entire base hostile. Especially towards all non-MAGA Americans that don’t believe the 100% bullshit coming from Trumps mouth at a literal record setting pace.
Do you feel the same need to have clarifying statements come from every lying sack of MAGA hatred that said the shooter was left immediately with no evidence?
You know, literally all of them?
Because unlike Kimmel, they immediately used the death of one of their own to further antagonize their perceived political enemies despite a complete lack of evidence.
But sure, let’s hold Kimmel to the “Truth” and not the unquestionable evil of using the dead for personal gain - that needs no apologies. Might as well ignore this behaviour despite it being responsible for 70% of public shootings the last 10 years too. Seeing that’s now a fact this admin just deleted from the DOJ because they don’t like it. Is you desire for the truth here too, as it is literally being covered up?
In what way do you feel Kimmel telling the truth is far better for our society as a whole?
Because there is no need to get angry over Kimmel for needing to “tell the truth.” It’s not like his lie killed more Americans than all the wars we ever fought in combined like COVID has.
So no offense, but it’s obviously the truth is very far from what you are looking for here. What it sounds like you want from Kimmel is fealty.
MAGA immediately lied about the shooter being left
the first arest done related to the shooting was literaly a leftist ( the old pedophile)
But sure, let’s hold Kimmel to the “Truth” and not the unquestionable evil of using the dead for personal gain - that needs no apologies
A public figure on tv network is held by standard and that s litteraly why he was removed
In what way do you feel Kimmel telling the truth is far better for our society as a whole?
if u question why telling the truth is better for society i feel all your argument regarding the other side of yours can be dismissed.
Because there is no need to get angry over Kimmel for needing to “tell the truth.” It’s not like his lie killed more Americans than all the wars we ever fought in combined like COVID has.
I see any relation to that topic and if your argument is i can do that cause x does that then it can also be dismissed. also i really think you exagerate a virus that have a 0.1% of killing under 50 ppl. But that might be related to your already mortal obesity rate.
So no offense, but it’s obviously the truth is very far from what you are looking for here. What it sounds like you want from Kimmel is fealty.
In my book he could even make fun of kirk. I dont like it but it s his right. Lying on national tv isnt
the first arest done related to the shooting was literaly a leftist ( the old pedophile).
Yeah. The FBI is now run by an unqualified idiot, and he arrested the wrong person. Kash Patel is in a much higher office than Kimmel and should apologize for arresting who was obviously the wrong suspect according to you.
Every person who reported on that mistake as if it was true should also apologize, but I guess massively fucking up an FBI investigation is a good excuse to lie according to you? Do I understand that right?
A public figure on tv network is held by standard and that s litteraly why he was removed
Explain to me why you think Kimmels position as an public entertainer should be held to a higher standard than those in public office like the President. Seriously. Explain it.
Because it shouldnt. Political polices, not entertainment, are most effective when they’re based on truth. We don’t need truth in entertainment, we need truth in politics.
Trump and his entire cabinet should apologize for mistakenly believing the left was responsible, after the FBI apologizes for arresting who was clearly the wrong person.
This truth would have a far greater impact on society than Kimmel admitting he also made a mistake. Do you agree?
if u question why telling the truth is better for society i feel all your argument regarding the other side of yours can be dismissed.
I’m not. I’m asking you to specifically tell me how Kimmel telling the truth is better for society COMPARED to Trump and his entire Cabinet doing the same.
It’s a basic compare and contrast question, that I’ll simplify into:
Which of the below would have a greater societal benefit in telling the truth:
Trump apologizing for lying about the left based on Patel massively fucking up and arresting the obvious wrong person.
Kimmel apologizing for lying about the right based on actual facts that were read in a way Trump didn’t like.
Use your words to describe the benefits of each societal outcome rather than just saying one is better than the other (if you can.)
Because it is painfully obvious which would be better to society, and literally no one should have an issue seeing that if they’re not logically compromised.
Lying on national tv isn’t.
Seriously, honest question: how do you feel about the President lying on national TV? Or the head of the FBI?
Is it seriously only a bad thing to you when Kimmel does it? Because it really seems like your entire point of the Truth needing to being said on national TV is constructed entirely outside of Trump being our president and lying all the time.
Honestly, I find it sad that you think Kimmel needs to tell the truth, when our President has publically lied 162 times on TV this year alone. Here they all are:
If you honestly care about the truth and how that benefits society, then why are you giving Trump a free pass to lie? Trump holds a higher office, is on TV, and based on my above links, lies much more frequently than Kimmel.
So, explain to me why you feel Trump doesn’t need to ever publicly tell the truth, or admit when he’s lying, but you think Kimmel does.
Seriously. Just answer this one question in a reasonable way, and maybe you have a point to make. I’ll take any avoidance in talking about Trump as an admission that you’re compromised by their propaganda.
Yeah. The FBI is now run by an unqualified idiot, and he arrested the wrong person. Kash Patel is in a much higher office than Kimmel and should apologize for arresting who was obviously the wrong suspect according to you.
it s not the fbi that did the arest but the security on the campus. And if u have a shooting and somebody gldly claim i did it yes i want him arrested and at least charge with obstruction to justice.
Every person who reported on that mistake as if it was true should also apologize, but I guess massively fucking up an FBI investigation is a good excuse to lie according to you? Do I understand that right?
Give an exemple of anybody in charge of the investigation that said he was the shooter ?
Explain to me why you think Kimmels position as an public entertainer should be held to a higher standard than those in public office like the President
Cause national tv is subject to law that doesnt abide political figure.
Trump and his entire cabinet should apologize for mistakenly believing the left was responsible, after the FBI apologizes for arresting who was clearly the wrong person.
This truth would have a far greater impact on society than Kimmel admitting he also made a mistake. Do you agree?
i agree but the dude was definetly a leftist and definetly not a maga
Trump apologizing for lying about the left based on Patel massively fucking up and arresting the obvious wrong person.
Tyler robinson is the killer he confesse it and his own familly told he was a leftist
Seriously, honest question: how do you feel about the President lying on national TV? Or the head of the FBI?
I think it s wrong but regarding that case i didnt seen instance of it comming from them
The backlash began after Patel said Wednesday that “the subject for the horrific shooting today that took the life of Charlie Kirk is now in custody,” before saying less than two hours later that he had the wrong person. It was the second time that day authorities had arrested someone in the case then let them go.
Here you go. Literally the head of the FBI saying the 71 yo they caught who wasn’t the shooter is “the subject for the horrific shooting today that took the life of Charlie Kirk is now in custody.”
Here’s what happened when that guy got arrested:
Zinn told police he shot Kirk to “draw attention from the real shooter,” according to documents obtained by Fox 13 News. He allegedly approached an officer and said, “I shot him, now shoot me,” but refused to say where the weapon was. Officers searched him and found no gun.
Patel before bothering to learn any of this:
“… the subject for the horrific shooting today that took the life of Charlie Kirk is now in custody.”
Everyone in the MAGA sphere then went on to lie about the left as violent because of this.
Going so far as to delete the DOJ study proving the right is responsible for 70% of mass shootings.
“Militant, nationalistic, white supremacist violent extremism has increased in the United States. In fact, the number of far-right attacks continues to outpace all other types of terrorism and domestic violent extremism,” the first two lines of the study read
And you want to believe Kimmel apologizing is somehow magically better for society? Is his apology going to bring back these publically funded studies paid for by our tax dollars?
Explain this reasoning of yours. Please. Because it’s truly insane to me.
And I do not say this lighty - but I have to because you honestly believe this:
Cause national tv is subject to law that doesnt abide political figure.
Show me this law. It does not exist.
Fox News can lie to you. It’s technically entertainment and not news. Their lawyers argued this in court and won.
the Dominion lawsuit has exposed the network as an entertainment network masquerading as a news outlet. In private, Fox News personalities like Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham, and Carlson were expressing their disdain for former President Donald Trump and their belief that the 2020 presidential election wasn’t stolen. On air, they said the opposite.
On air they said the opposite because they’re allowed to lie. Because its legal for them to lie to you on television.
But it is NOT legal for anyone holding public office to lie.
Under Section 1001 of title 18 of the United States Code, It is a federal crime to knowingly and willfully make a materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the United States. You must “know” that what you are saying is a lie to make you guilty of this crime.
Patel didn’t know the person first arrested for the shooting was obviously not the culprit. But he lied and said he was. Saying this with certainty when the facts are unknown is a lie. Seeing as Patel is part of the Judicial branch, this is also illegal.
It is incredibly disheartening to hear you believe that Kimmel is guilty of some crime here instead of the FBI being lead by an incompetent lying idiot who is feeding national division by eagerly lying about a suspect in custody to fit a narrative before any information about them is confirmed. The damage caused by this is unquestionably larger than anything Kimmel has done, and you can’t prove otherwise because you’re unwilling to admit team Trump even lies at all, despite them being the only ones in all of this legally obligated to tell the truth.
Everyone in the MAGA sphere then went on to lie about the left as violent because of this.
in the article u link he s criticized for that. And the left being violent isnt a first and like i said before the shooter is antifa affiliated and while we didnt have the shooter we had the bullet casing before with antifa slogan.
Going so far as to delete the DOJ study proving the right is responsible for 70% of mass shootings.
heard about that story but from i understand it was data that was missrepresented same as the adl one who post all anti goovernement action as far right. but that s not the subject here.
Show me this law. It does not exist. Fox News can lie to you. It’s technically entertainment and not news. Their lawyers argued this in court and won.
about the next point u have your answer in this part “within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the United States. You must “know” that what you are saying is a lie to make you guilty of this crime.”
Patel didn’t know the person first arrested for the shooting was obviously not the culprit. But he lied and said he was. Saying this with certainty when the facts are unknown is a lie. Seeing as Patel is part of the Judicial branch, this is also illegal.
??? did u misstype ? anyway im not sure he was lying since he retract his statement in 2 hour. like see he retract false statement. The same i said kiemel should be abble to do
It is incredibly disheartening to hear you believe that Kimmel is guilty of some crime here instead of the FBI being lead by an incompetent
im all for a wolrd where incompetence is a crime.
eagerly lying about a suspect in custody to fit a narrative before any information about them is confirmed. The damage caused by this is unquestionably larger than anything Kimmel has done
they retracted false informations. in the end the killer is still a leftist. Also not abide by the same law. but i agree bad information comming from the head of the fbi is bad and i condomne thoses
If you read his quote above there is no lie in that line. The right have been trying to distance themselves from the shooter and have been using it to score political points as either of the party does with a situation they can use. (Although this administration is actively spreading disinformation)
How Tyler robinson a dude described NY his own mother left leaning dating a trans and saying he did it cause Kirk spread too much hatred was a maga ? How this isn’t a lie?
It s for the obvious lie about the intent and political association regarding the shooter. I think him being remove isn’t the great, but he should be oblige to comme back on that statement which was a lie and tell the truth
Bullshit. This is such a disingenuous argument.
MAGA immediately lied about the shooter being left, making their entire base hostile. Especially towards all non-MAGA Americans that don’t believe the 100% bullshit coming from Trumps mouth at a literal record setting pace.
Do you feel the same need to have clarifying statements come from every lying sack of MAGA hatred that said the shooter was left immediately with no evidence?
You know, literally all of them?
Because unlike Kimmel, they immediately used the death of one of their own to further antagonize their perceived political enemies despite a complete lack of evidence.
But sure, let’s hold Kimmel to the “Truth” and not the unquestionable evil of using the dead for personal gain - that needs no apologies. Might as well ignore this behaviour despite it being responsible for 70% of public shootings the last 10 years too. Seeing that’s now a fact this admin just deleted from the DOJ because they don’t like it. Is you desire for the truth here too, as it is literally being covered up?
In what way do you feel Kimmel telling the truth is far better for our society as a whole?
Because there is no need to get angry over Kimmel for needing to “tell the truth.” It’s not like his lie killed more Americans than all the wars we ever fought in combined like COVID has.
So no offense, but it’s obviously the truth is very far from what you are looking for here. What it sounds like you want from Kimmel is fealty.
the first arest done related to the shooting was literaly a leftist ( the old pedophile)
A public figure on tv network is held by standard and that s litteraly why he was removed
if u question why telling the truth is better for society i feel all your argument regarding the other side of yours can be dismissed.
I see any relation to that topic and if your argument is i can do that cause x does that then it can also be dismissed. also i really think you exagerate a virus that have a 0.1% of killing under 50 ppl. But that might be related to your already mortal obesity rate.
In my book he could even make fun of kirk. I dont like it but it s his right. Lying on national tv isnt
Yeah. The FBI is now run by an unqualified idiot, and he arrested the wrong person. Kash Patel is in a much higher office than Kimmel and should apologize for arresting who was obviously the wrong suspect according to you.
Every person who reported on that mistake as if it was true should also apologize, but I guess massively fucking up an FBI investigation is a good excuse to lie according to you? Do I understand that right?
Explain to me why you think Kimmels position as an public entertainer should be held to a higher standard than those in public office like the President. Seriously. Explain it.
Because it shouldnt. Political polices, not entertainment, are most effective when they’re based on truth. We don’t need truth in entertainment, we need truth in politics.
Trump and his entire cabinet should apologize for mistakenly believing the left was responsible, after the FBI apologizes for arresting who was clearly the wrong person.
This truth would have a far greater impact on society than Kimmel admitting he also made a mistake. Do you agree?
I’m not. I’m asking you to specifically tell me how Kimmel telling the truth is better for society COMPARED to Trump and his entire Cabinet doing the same.
It’s a basic compare and contrast question, that I’ll simplify into:
Which of the below would have a greater societal benefit in telling the truth:
Trump apologizing for lying about the left based on Patel massively fucking up and arresting the obvious wrong person.
Kimmel apologizing for lying about the right based on actual facts that were read in a way Trump didn’t like.
Use your words to describe the benefits of each societal outcome rather than just saying one is better than the other (if you can.)
Because it is painfully obvious which would be better to society, and literally no one should have an issue seeing that if they’re not logically compromised.
Seriously, honest question: how do you feel about the President lying on national TV? Or the head of the FBI?
Is it seriously only a bad thing to you when Kimmel does it? Because it really seems like your entire point of the Truth needing to being said on national TV is constructed entirely outside of Trump being our president and lying all the time.
Honestly, I find it sad that you think Kimmel needs to tell the truth, when our President has publically lied 162 times on TV this year alone. Here they all are:
https://www.npr.org/2024/08/11/nx-s1-5070566/trump-news-conference
Every single lie has a source. Every lie has a detailed description of how it was a lie.
This is in addition to the 30573 other lies he told to the public on TV during his first administration. Here’s that list:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/24/trumps-false-or-misleading-claims-total-30573-over-four-years/
If you honestly care about the truth and how that benefits society, then why are you giving Trump a free pass to lie? Trump holds a higher office, is on TV, and based on my above links, lies much more frequently than Kimmel.
So, explain to me why you feel Trump doesn’t need to ever publicly tell the truth, or admit when he’s lying, but you think Kimmel does.
Seriously. Just answer this one question in a reasonable way, and maybe you have a point to make. I’ll take any avoidance in talking about Trump as an admission that you’re compromised by their propaganda.
it s not the fbi that did the arest but the security on the campus. And if u have a shooting and somebody gldly claim i did it yes i want him arrested and at least charge with obstruction to justice.
Give an exemple of anybody in charge of the investigation that said he was the shooter ?
Cause national tv is subject to law that doesnt abide political figure.
i agree but the dude was definetly a leftist and definetly not a maga
Tyler robinson is the killer he confesse it and his own familly told he was a leftist
I think it s wrong but regarding that case i didnt seen instance of it comming from them
i think it s wrong and i dont support it.
Cause like i said a network isnt held accountable the same way a politician is. I agree lying politician is bad and i dont suport it
Fox News: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kash-patel-under-scrutiny-misreporting-charlie-kirk-suspects-capture
Here you go. Literally the head of the FBI saying the 71 yo they caught who wasn’t the shooter is “the subject for the horrific shooting today that took the life of Charlie Kirk is now in custody.”
Here’s what happened when that guy got arrested:
Patel before bothering to learn any of this:
Everyone in the MAGA sphere then went on to lie about the left as violent because of this.
Going so far as to delete the DOJ study proving the right is responsible for 70% of mass shootings.
https://people.com/department-of-justice-quietly-deletes-study-after-charlie-kirk-death-that-says-right-wing-extremists-engage-in-far-more-political-violence-11811580
And you want to believe Kimmel apologizing is somehow magically better for society? Is his apology going to bring back these publically funded studies paid for by our tax dollars?
Explain this reasoning of yours. Please. Because it’s truly insane to me.
And I do not say this lighty - but I have to because you honestly believe this:
Show me this law. It does not exist. Fox News can lie to you. It’s technically entertainment and not news. Their lawyers argued this in court and won.
https://niemanreports.org/fox-dominion-lawsuit/
On air they said the opposite because they’re allowed to lie. Because its legal for them to lie to you on television.
But it is NOT legal for anyone holding public office to lie.
Here is that law: https://www.mololamken.com/knowledge-Is-It-a-Crime-To-Lie-to-the-Government-Even-If-You-Are-Not-Under-Oath
Patel didn’t know the person first arrested for the shooting was obviously not the culprit. But he lied and said he was. Saying this with certainty when the facts are unknown is a lie. Seeing as Patel is part of the Judicial branch, this is also illegal.
It is incredibly disheartening to hear you believe that Kimmel is guilty of some crime here instead of the FBI being lead by an incompetent lying idiot who is feeding national division by eagerly lying about a suspect in custody to fit a narrative before any information about them is confirmed. The damage caused by this is unquestionably larger than anything Kimmel has done, and you can’t prove otherwise because you’re unwilling to admit team Trump even lies at all, despite them being the only ones in all of this legally obligated to tell the truth.
in the article u link he s criticized for that. And the left being violent isnt a first and like i said before the shooter is antifa affiliated and while we didnt have the shooter we had the bullet casing before with antifa slogan.
heard about that story but from i understand it was data that was missrepresented same as the adl one who post all anti goovernement action as far right. but that s not the subject here.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/47/73.1217
about the next point u have your answer in this part “within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the United States. You must “know” that what you are saying is a lie to make you guilty of this crime.”
??? did u misstype ? anyway im not sure he was lying since he retract his statement in 2 hour. like see he retract false statement. The same i said kiemel should be abble to do
im all for a wolrd where incompetence is a crime.
they retracted false informations. in the end the killer is still a leftist. Also not abide by the same law. but i agree bad information comming from the head of the fbi is bad and i condomne thoses
If you read his quote above there is no lie in that line. The right have been trying to distance themselves from the shooter and have been using it to score political points as either of the party does with a situation they can use. (Although this administration is actively spreading disinformation)
How Tyler robinson a dude described NY his own mother left leaning dating a trans and saying he did it cause Kirk spread too much hatred was a maga ? How this isn’t a lie?