I mean, he did the same with COVID. And despite the fact that it killed more Americans than in all the wars we’ve ever fought in combined, here he is doing it again. People are just going to keep dying, and the media will continue to normalize it.

Simple:

People with money used it to convince our government that money is the same as people, but more important. So it’s now “We the people (with the most money).”

Oh I agree completely. Just to clarify: The DNC absolutely will not get it or care. This is what I was describing as more “apparant” now.

Don’t forget Bernie.

DNC had the same exact response. With the same exact Trump.

Took the DNC ten fucking years to pull their head out of their ass long enough to complain about young men populism being the key to victory, despite literally pissing away all the young men populism voters they had with Bernie Sanders.

Thank fuck it’s now blatantly obvious with Zohran.

Democrats may not be complicit, but the DNC sure as shit is.

They take money from all the same donors as the GOP and are using to it fight their own popular candidates. Which isn’t new, considering Bernie Sanders and the DNC torpedoing his organically grown young male audience so hard they voted for Trump.

The DNC told you to blame those who didn’t vote Hillary instead of admitting she was by far the least popular candidate among the young men that keep voting for Trump.

The DNC is unquestionably liable for favoring their money-interest candidates over popular ones, so the GOP just said, fuck it, run the popular TV idiot and have been winning since.

Literally, in the last decade the DNC fought in court for their right to pick their own candidates over the results of their own primary (& charter), then just fucking stopped having primaries all together.

To believe, unquestionably, that the DNC isn’t at least partially responsible for how fucked things are is admitting you do not understand the problem that’s fucking us.

Agreed. And if it wasn’t clear, I think Trump is an idiot. He sees everyone but himself as an enemy, including a vast majority of the country he is President over. He’s not saving the economy in our country - he’s working exclusively for himself and dismantling it for his favor.

The defense money discussed in this meeting is very likely going to Trumps family or friends (like the literal 2 Billion his son recieved from Saudi Royalty) As our economy is very much on its way to another great depression, including the corruption and needless Tariffs that caused it last time.

Everyone that works with Trump gets ass fucked, because the only thing he wants is fealty and self enrichment. There is no benefit towards our country or citizens in his actions, just himself.

At the very least, the leaders of NATO understand this, and sucked his dick over this deal just to make sure the US didn’t leave NATO as Trump has made very clear he gives no fucks about. Without the US’s military backing, NATO is at immediate threat of hostilities, certainly by Russia who wouldn’t hesitate to push past Ukraine and into Europe as Putin has made clear is his goal. The leaders of NATO are simply making a deal with the devil to avoid literal hell.

It sucks you have to deal with those consequences, but at least you have a government that isn’t banning abortion to kill more of your people through sheer ignorance.

Yep. But the point is Donald doesn’t realize his dick is getting sucked by someone trying to get a favor out of him rather than just because he’s such a swell guy.

He’s a narcissist. All he sees is compliments, not the clear manipulation behind them.

Give Trump praise, he’ll do exactly what you say. Which is why he thinks Putin is his best friend. Putin is just using Trump as a convenient idiot that’ll do anything asked as long as Trump feels he’ll be complimented by it.

All he has to say is something like:

“Oh Donny, at this time your big hands and strong will are our only hope. Won’t you please bomb Iran to protect the world and become it’s hero?”

And that’s all it takes to start WW3. And Trump would post the message thinking it’s a compliment.

“we aren’t kings”

Cries when parade isn’t dictator-y enough.

I’m aware of your opinion. I just don’t agree that now is a bad time to talk about kids dying. Because it’s never been a good time. I’ve been told to wait for a better time to have this conversation for two decades, and in that time there’s now hundreds more dead kids making it an even better reason to have this discussion.

We’re adults. We can talk about all the bad things that need fixed, and we can do it all at once while other bad things are happening. Thinking otherwise is how we let this problem grow this big. Becuase it’s been easier to be distracted by bigger priorities (9/11, 2008, Covid, etc) rather than actually work on a solution.

I’m not even advocating for banning guns at all. Just that we should have a conversation - one where we discuss what policy options could fix the accessibility problem of guns while still making your gun owning friends happy.

Yet, I can’t even seem to get close to having that conversation with you without you somehow feeling insulted. Followed by you threatening me with violence you assume will occur to me despite me already saying I own guns and know how to use them.

Why is it that the biggest 2A supporters are the ones who run the fastest away from the adult conversation we need to have about guns in this country? Because at least Hogg isn’t running away from the topic like you are just because it’s a “bad time”

So of course you don’t agree with him. The point I’m making is that if you don’t, it should be you talking about it instead of postponing the conversation further. That’s how kids die. And from my position, at least Hogg is trying to stop it instead of burying his head in the sand as you have advocated for.

So let me make this very clear: Fuck Democrats who want to ban guns, I just want them to be at least as hard to obtain as a car.

And that unfortunately makes me more closer aligned to Hogg. But at least I’m talking about it.

I’m a liberal gun owner. Also go to ranges. Also see that the majority of people there are right leaning.

That doesn’t mean they support fascism. That doesn’t mean they will use their weapons to kill those that oppose fascism.

No one on the right actually wants a civil war, but the people they keep electing say they do becuase they’re stupid enough to think it would be profitable.

In reality, the dumbest people imaginable are in control of our government. And the people that eat Fox News corpo-governemnt propaganda on the daily are likewise just as stupid, but only in that their ability to reason has been compromised - so they posture about killing liberals for clout just like previous generations postured about joining the military despite never serving.

In the end, the people that are actually stupid enough to use their guns against other Americans are in the vast minority. But also, they are stupid enough not to use or operate their weapons correctly.

The people I see at ranges that regularly threaten their lives with poor trigger discipline are usually the ones that support Trump, so I’m more afraid of them killing their friends from incompetence than a left leaning American.

My dude.

Literally the rest of the world doesn’t have this problem. So let’s start in that reality, unless you have a bunch of school shooting data to prove me wrong.

Australia is a great example of gun control policies and how they can be used to stop public shootings like they did in the 90’s. It worked there, and literally everywhere else it’s been adopted, including here in the US with the Brady Bill. (That lapsed long ago).

I own guns and use them. I also work in a field where they are used often.

So I know what I’m saying when I say that there absolutely should be compromises on what types of weapons are regulated, how they function, and we should without questions require a license to get one like a car. But a conversation about these things needs to actually happen for better options to be brought to the table.

Without Hogg and others, we’re left with a bunch of idiots that think doing nothing as our children get executed in schools is a necessity if we want to have fun with guns.

So I find it hard to agree with anything you just said as it’s mostly a made up terror fantasy you’re substituting as factual to skip over the actual conversation about gun regulations that need to be had.

The difference between your opinion and Hoggs is that his will effectively save children, and yours will let them die.

There’s absolutely a middle ground. And if you don’t like his policies, you should be the one finding that middle as you weren’t the one who was shot in school as a child for the crime of being American like Hogg was.

Maybe consider why he has that position on Firearms? Considering he was the victim of a school shooting as a child during one of the dozens that have happened since Columbine. Funny how school shootings are now old enough for their survivors to run for office. So maybe their stance is respectable, even if you don’t agree with it.

I love the complete lack of self awareness in what you’re saying - as if it doesn’t also apply to you and how you talk to others.

It’s actually:

4. To ensure the corporate real estate market doesn’t collapse like the the consumer real estate market did in 2008 despite the same problem with massive loan fraud inflating the value of business real-estate for toxic bank loans that are rated AAA, but are actually worth shit as no one needs corporate real estate post - Covid.

It’s the 2008 housing crisis, but with corporate real estate. COVID forced work from home, which caught banks with their pants down, having no way to actually drive the demand back up for these buildings that will continually house less and less people from less and less businesses (Work from home + businesses not surviving Covid, now Tariffs.)

Our entire banking system is backed up by debt packaged with corporate real estate that’s rated as AAA, but is just more toxic cat shit no one wants wrapped in dogshit that banks need. It’s a bomb that’s been growing as giant corporate buildings become ghost towns, and city centers become more horizontal than verticle.

Big companies with big loans from banks know they’re fucked if the corporate real estate market collapses. So they force work from home as a band aid that gives their corporate property some value, or at least justifies it on paper. In reality, the cost to force workers into the office always offsets the billions in losses if their corporate office real estate ever followed real market forces and depreciated in value.

Pretty sure you’d care if I built a casino on the mass grave your mother was buried in after I publicly helped dig it.

But hey, she’ll be dead no matter what, so you don’t care right?

I mean, honestly, why are you even trying to use a moral compass when you clearly don’t have one to begin with.

It’s funny we live in a world where people like you waste so much of their time on the internet arguing a lost cause. Mostly because everyone outside the bubble of bullshit you’re addicted to being a part of isn’t so gullible. Honestly, amd I mean this sincerely. You are dillusional.

It is objectively pointless to have a conversation with you, as the outcome is always decided for you before you even type.

Your comments and every one like them are just the same bullshit white noise being perpetuated by people addicted to their lizard brains chemical reactions to the fear, anger, and hate they’ve buried themselves in.

You’re a literal junkie high on hate, and any conversation with you is pointless because you aren’t even a part of it.

Don’t forget about the casino Trump wants to build there after bulldozong it! That certainly wouldn’t have happened under a Biden presidency either.

No offense, but have you considered that Democrats aren’t left?

Because compared to the rest of the world and political spectrum, they are not “left.”

So you are absolutley correct that:

we’re exactly the same. Both sides believe they are critical thinkers.

Both the GOP and DEMS have the same corporate blindspots. Both think they’re critical thinkers, but will defend their party as the “correct” one rather than admit that the system has completely failed to keep money away from influencing every outcome.

We have a congress and senate stacked with millionaires doing the bidding of the billionaires that pay for their campaigns instead of the people that vote for them.

The only difference between the GOP and the DNC, is that the DNC wants a slow decent into a corporate dystopia instead of a fast one that kills people unnecessarily.

Actual “left” policies requires the following discourse that is impossible for the DNC to have honestly:

• reducing the military budget
• reducing corporate welfare
• workers rights & Union rights
• increasing taxes on the wealthy

All of these things have become “too socialist” for a DEM to even bring up, and you’ll justify that as them “aiming for moderates” instead of thinking critically about how every facet of our society is now corporate controlled and the reason actual “left” socialist policy isn’t talked about is simply because Facebook, Google, and X own the spaces those conversations happen. Instead of actual discourse, and cooperating on collective measures, corporations make sure the algorithms they control make America too afraid and angry of overexagerated BS to not think critically about the failure of their society to move forward in two decades despite the massive wealth concentrating at the top of it.

DEMS love having a bad guy to point to. So do the GOP. Yet that finger is always pointed at the other party instead of the Billionaires that have used their unspent “Trickle Down” Reagonomic tax breaks to make society worse instead of better, because problems like unaffordable Healthcare are incredibly more profitable than a publically funded one.

Yet I’ll bet you want to blame the GOP for that too. Not Senator Lieberman, an Independent, who got rid of the public option in Obamacare by simply threatening a filibuster that the Dems immediately capitulated to despite already having enough votes without him.

If you want to think critically, you’re going to have to start by not pointing fingers at the GOP when the DEMS consistently capitulate on our most beneficial legislation to favor their coporate donors.

Actual critical thinking is almost impossible in America, as it requires accepting that the system we live in doesn’t work, and insisting on using it the way we’re “supposed to” has lead to massive wealth disparity and the loss of freedoms to corporate interests.

It’s certainly not hard to see when the greatest threat to United Health and costly health insurance in the last 15 years has come from an assassin instead of our elected officials. Show me a DEM explaining Luigi Mangionis actions instead of chastising him for it.

The left uses critical thinking. They need to actually engage with information and verify it before choosing to adopt it. This takes time.

The right are scared children and adopt whatever their TV parent or religious politician tells them out of fear. This takes zero time.

“We actually demand answers and real transparency. It’s not that hard to deliver.”

The only way it’s hard to deliver if it’s completely made the fuck up. Would be great if they at least had this level of self awareness. At this point, my dog that thinks his reflection is another dog has more.