• Assassassin@lemmy.world
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    24 hours ago

    Beyond this being another obvious step towards a bastard combo of 1944 and 1984, I’m once again faced with the same question I’ve had for the last decade: how the fuck can anyone hear this guy talk and think “yeah, that’s a leader”? He has the temperament and vocabulary of a pissy 5 year old, the memory and general cognitive performance of a dementia patient, and the ideological consistency of a magic 8 ball.

    MAGA are genuinely the stupidest group of individuals that have ever collectively organized.

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      18 hours ago

      It’s the propaganda they have been exposed to. They believe what they are told but have a very difficult time walking through any logic that got them there (hint: there isn’t any) especially in the face of facts. They will usually deny any facts that do not lead to their conclusion.

      Ask a Trump supporter what core American values he upholds and you can almost hear their mind grinding gears.

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      They like him specifically because he has the temperament and vocabulary of a 5 year old. Cause they do too, which makes him sound “real” instead of someone talking down to them. They don’t care about any of his actual policies. They don’t care about what he does. They barely care about what he actually says. All they care about is he makes them feel okay about being ignorant and bigoted.

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        It has been absolute whiplash to realize this over the last decade. I used to laugh at the old carlin joke of “imagine how dumb the average person is. Half of them are dumber than that.” I knew that there were a lot of idiots out there, but I believed that they were at least kind hearted idiots that could learn a lesson one way or another. Apparently I set the bar too high. I genuinely cannot adequately express how disappointed I am with my fellow countrymen every single day.

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          if it’s any consolation, even more americans than that are just too apathetic (or too damn tired, overworked, and overstressed) to pay attention to politics at all unless it immediately effects them on a day-to-day basis

          oh wait, that just makes it even worse

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          22 hours ago

          No single issue has had a more significant impact on my perception of humanity than the popularity of Donald Trump.

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        You’d think these people would be just the dumb ones doing crappy jobs but I’ve seen Maga types in high positions in engineering as well, boogles my mind that someone educated would make such bad choices and harbor so much illogical haterated

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        22 hours ago

        I would prefer a 5 year old as POTUS. Give them some ice cream, fries and something to do (not to difficult) and they’re happy. No unlimited greed or hatred for others.

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      23 hours ago

      how the fuck can anyone hear this guy talk and think “yeah, that’s a leader”?

      Rich geriatric white business goon is the archetypical American Bossman. Guys like him are everywhere, especially in the scloratic journalism industry.

      MAGA are genuinely the stupidest group of individuals that have ever collectively organized.

      They hate their current system and they don’t seem to care who gets hurt tearing it up.

      You can call that stupid. You can call it angry. But it’s horrifyingly effective.

      Meanwhile, smug posting liberal hecklers and don’t-rock-the-boat centrists are at least as stupid. And “The Left” - such that it exists - is either too terrified or too feeble to fight back.

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      Part of it is that they genuinely don’t watch or care. They just learned they like trump and will continue to say so. Never forget just how many people didn’t even know Biden wasn’t fucking running last year. There has been a massive culture (on Both Sides) of “don’t watch the news for your mental health” that just puts people in isolation chambers where they occasionally hear something.

      And the other aspect? He is them. Boomers are increasingly senile every single year and he is a boomer ass boomer. But also? Just look around on social media or in stream chats and so forth. A LOT of people sound like they speak English as a Second Language… until you realize they are making references to nickelodean shows and may even have comments or posts outright saying they are a native. They just are fucking illiterate (and this applies from boomers on down but is just a major crisis for genz/alpha because they might have a chance).

      Also odds on someone thinking they are “witty” for saying this is “TLDR”? Because… think about the implications of “you talk too much” as an insult.

      And that isn’t just their illiteracy. We mostly tend to skew middle/upper-middle/upper class around here. Spend some time actually communicating with “support staff” (e.g. custodial) or even talking to someone at a supermarket or fast food joint. The “Gen Z Stare” is definitely a thing but it isn’t just Gen Z and it is very much people who do not know how to communicate or articulate a thought literally locking up. THAT is trump.

      I remember back when the problem was that people glazed Jed Bartlet and it had to be explained to them that real human beings don’t have script writers to make every single word they say deeply beautiful and intellectual. Now? People would hunt Martin Sheen down for daring to make them feel inadequate.

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        23 hours ago

        I agree with you on most of that. As someone that’s spent the majority of their life broke, I will stick up for the lower class and say that many of the folks I’ve worked with in menial roles were aware of the world and able to express themselves and interact socially at a level that MAGAts just aren’t able to. I don’t think social status has anything to do with it. MAGA prides itself in rejection of anything bordering on intellectual, across the board.

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          Its less about class and more about socioeconomics. Kids get out what they put in (and parents go a long way towards teaching kids to get what they can out of school… which is why each generation has more and more developmental issues). But it is a lot easier to learn when you aren’t spending your entire day bouncing between being scared for your life to just trying to keep your heads down as an overworked and underpaid teacher needs to babysit the kids who desperately need more help but can’t get it because public school in “the ghetto”.