• meejle@lemmy.world
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    23 hours ago

    In my opinion (don’t @ me bro): The last credible leader and party we have in this country.

    The way I see it, the only remotely “leftist” options we have are Zach “I can make women’s breasts bigger through hypnosis” Polanski, Corbyn’s not-quite-a-party that can’t-quite-decide whether trans people should exist, or the Lib Dems.

    As much as people see Ed Davey as a “joke leader” because of his stunts (because the media would only platform Mr Toad otherwise 🐸), I’m increasingly impressed by him. He’s on the right side of basically every issue lately, you guys.

    And is often the only person who is.


    ETA: He also wrote to Kemi Badenoch and Nigel Farage. His letter alludes to that but doesn’t make it super clear.

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      2 hours ago

      I can see why he wrote to Badenoch, but Farage is basically part of the problem. Although it would be funny to see his response.

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      Corbyn’s interview a few weeks ago called out vilifying of Trans folk and made clear they should feel safe from discrimination to live their lives.

      Yes there is one MP that has slightly different views but still made clear there should be safe spaces. Let’s not make perfect be the enemy of good as I don’t think any party has every MP with the same view on trans people and all issues close to our heart. I’m pretty confident Your Party will have a progressive view on Trans rights.

      Politics is like bus routes. You’ll never find anything that goes exactly to your door, so you pick the one that gets you closest so you can walk the rest of the way.

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        To extend your analogy.

        Corbin is promising to run a bus route that will maybe go in the vague approximate direction of where you live. But for some reason it’s refusing to publish a route map.

        Until they have their conference they haven’t set out any kind of road map.

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          Yes, because he’s a democrat. He can hardly set out positions without agreement.

          He’ll not open the bus route without consulting the people to see if that is the optimal route, or seeing that there are enough drivers available to cover the routes.

          The funny thing is, people blast Keir for being an autocrat and not listening to folk and then unironically bash a democratic approach because they’re hoping for someone to tell them what to do.

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      14 hours ago

      Ok, so Zack Polanski is absolutely spot on on every issue, more so than Ed Davey, who is a free marketeer who is happy to sell our power infrastructure to foreign interests. Ed Davey privatised Royal Mail and failed to investigate the Horizon scandal whilst in post as the minister for postal affairs. All prominent politicians have some shit in their past, so why are you picking on Polanski?

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      21 hours ago

      I agree that Ed is a very competent and credible leader fronting possibly the most professional parties in Westminster (despite the stunts and gaffs). However I feel like you are parroting smears on Polanski and to and extent Corbyn.

      The hypnosis breasts incident was instigated by a Sun journalist and repeated every time he reaches any headlines by the right wing press. For a story that was largely fabricated.

      The Corbyn party I feel you have more of a point as they seem quite unorganised and split (and they have so much overlap with Green that there isn’t all that much point). But didn’t they cut association with the guy questioning trans rights?

      Just to add as well, there are other leftist options in the country who are doing quite well and currently seem pretty competent, though they are not English.

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        18 hours ago

        I’ve just done a bunch of googling.

        Mostly he’s just quoted as saying he didn’t charge for the session. The “strongest” quote I could find said it “[was] not a service I ever have or would offer outside of the context of this article”, which I guess just means he was dumb enough to be sucked in by the tabloid “journalist” who asked him to try it. 😬

        In the same interview, he was asked for details about how the article misrepresented the events, and he pointed to a 6-year-old [at the time] radio interview that was obviously longer available.

        Idk. It’s slightly more nuanced than I’d assumed, but I now just think he’s weak, a bit thick, and a poor communicator. 😅

  • LuckingFurker (Any/All)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Why is just about everybody showing themselves to be a better leader than Starmer lately? Like, I know he’s shit but I didn’t expect him to be this shit, even Badenoch has been scoring points against him easily. There’s incompetence and then there’s “Keir Starmer a year into being Prime Minister”

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      Because he’s a technocrat, not a leader. He might be good at doing one thing (he was director of public prosecution and his dad was a tool maker, did you know?) but it doesn’t translate into leading at the top of politics. Same with Sunak. Both very earnest at wanting to do the best for the country (as they saw it), but both also absolute shit at selling their visions for the future properly.

      Christ, dare I say bring back Blair?

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        I don’t understand how he’s so bad at public speaking. Surely he had to prepare speeches as part of his job, yet he always gives the impression that thinking of the top of his head and has no prepared remarks.

        But he also has another problem which is that whoever is in charge of public relations in the party needs to be fired because they are beyond incompetent.

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        14 hours ago

        Best way I’ve heard Starmer described is Blair without the any of the vision, charisma or political insincts.

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        22 hours ago

        If he’d take a fucking principled stand on something it’d be something at least. Horse may have bolted in that regard though.

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    22 hours ago

    How in the name of all that’s holy has he managed to get the fucking letterhead crooked in an email. I agree with him, but that bloody letterhead has me seething.

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      It’s not an email though. It’s clearly a letter, look there’s a signature at the bottom written in pen.

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        21 hours ago

        So he’s typed a letter, printed it, scanned it, emailed it, managed to get all the text perfectly straight but the letterhead is still crooked relative to the body of the document and all this is somehow meant to be better?