I just can not believe this and other “leopards ate my face” stories like it. This man knew his business and livelihood depended on immigrant labor. He knows exactly how his farm operates. And Trump was very clear on his intentions regarding immigration. It was one of his core policies he ran on. It’s impossible that this farmer had not considered this outcome. This story and others like it have to be fiction.
It’s impossible that this farmer had not considered this outcome. This story and others like it have to be fiction.
Ahhh, Cipolla might help you understand, our farmer is 3 and you are 4.
These are Cipolla’s five fundamental laws of stupidity:
Always and inevitably, everyone underestimates the number of stupid individuals in circulation.
The probability that a certain person (will) be stupid is independent of any other characteristic of that person.
A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly incurring losses.
Non-stupid people always underestimate the damaging power of stupid individuals. In particular, non-stupid people constantly forget that at all times and places, and under any circumstances, to deal and/or associate with stupid people always turns out to be a costly mistake.
A stupid person is the most dangerous type of person.
I think over the past few decades, immigration enforcement has been a benefit to these people.
The government cracks down on illegal immigration publicly, which keeps an environment of fear among a community that knows they can’t rely on the government to ensure fair wages or safe working conditions. The people hiring them then know they can exploit immigrants without any scrutiny.
In the past, maybe immigration enforcement loss them 5% of their labor, but saved them 20% in wages (completely made up numbers). Maybe they expected the same now?
Having interacted with many of these people, I think their delusion was that when the immigrants disappeared, local high schoolers would just show up and work for minimum wage.
they tried it before, but americans arnt willing to do such a brutal physical job for such a wage. if they think about using prisoners, its the same thing, the prisoners will only do enough that wont get them in trouble. they arnt doing 12+hrs a day. also if they arnt being monitored, they arnt going to do work anyways.
I don’t see that business model working out well either. I’d like to see our youth educated in hard work and being exposed to where our food actually comes from. But motivating teens is challenging. And if it were my child I would rather they experience nature in a way that doesn’t permanently damage their back. I don’t particularly want to see poor immigrants being exploited either. Maybe this whole strategy of destroying family owned farms, and selling them to Vance owned private equity firms could result in a more equitable way of farming in the end? But I know that’s extremely unlikely.
teens are more vested in getting into college, or other easier work. why work on a farm when even walmart, target pays more and less stress. even trades, for being physically brutal and will wreak havoc on the body is easier than farm work by slavemasters.
even with how bad career development from colleges, the expensiveness, low prospects. its still better than slavework on the farm.
It’s because of identity politics man. Conservatives have to suspend disbelief of a lot of things to vote the way they do, I trust those in their immediate lives and purposefully don’t consider the outcome if those people are wrong.
I just can not believe this and other “leopards ate my face” stories like it. This man knew his business and livelihood depended on immigrant labor. He knows exactly how his farm operates. And Trump was very clear on his intentions regarding immigration. It was one of his core policies he ran on. It’s impossible that this farmer had not considered this outcome. This story and others like it have to be fiction.
Ahhh, Cipolla might help you understand, our farmer is 3 and you are 4.
These are Cipolla’s five fundamental laws of stupidity:
Always and inevitably, everyone underestimates the number of stupid individuals in circulation.
The probability that a certain person (will) be stupid is independent of any other characteristic of that person.
A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly incurring losses.
Non-stupid people always underestimate the damaging power of stupid individuals. In particular, non-stupid people constantly forget that at all times and places, and under any circumstances, to deal and/or associate with stupid people always turns out to be a costly mistake.
A stupid person is the most dangerous type of person.
This is why, in Trump’s own words, smart people don’t like Trump.
I think over the past few decades, immigration enforcement has been a benefit to these people.
The government cracks down on illegal immigration publicly, which keeps an environment of fear among a community that knows they can’t rely on the government to ensure fair wages or safe working conditions. The people hiring them then know they can exploit immigrants without any scrutiny.
In the past, maybe immigration enforcement loss them 5% of their labor, but saved them 20% in wages (completely made up numbers). Maybe they expected the same now?
Having interacted with many of these people, I think their delusion was that when the immigrants disappeared, local high schoolers would just show up and work for minimum wage.
they tried it before, but americans arnt willing to do such a brutal physical job for such a wage. if they think about using prisoners, its the same thing, the prisoners will only do enough that wont get them in trouble. they arnt doing 12+hrs a day. also if they arnt being monitored, they arnt going to do work anyways.
I don’t see that business model working out well either. I’d like to see our youth educated in hard work and being exposed to where our food actually comes from. But motivating teens is challenging. And if it were my child I would rather they experience nature in a way that doesn’t permanently damage their back. I don’t particularly want to see poor immigrants being exploited either. Maybe this whole strategy of destroying family owned farms, and selling them to Vance owned private equity firms could result in a more equitable way of farming in the end? But I know that’s extremely unlikely.
teens are more vested in getting into college, or other easier work. why work on a farm when even walmart, target pays more and less stress. even trades, for being physically brutal and will wreak havoc on the body is easier than farm work by slavemasters.
even with how bad career development from colleges, the expensiveness, low prospects. its still better than slavework on the farm.
“He won’t come for my exploited immigrants, they’re the good ones!”
It’s because of identity politics man. Conservatives have to suspend disbelief of a lot of things to vote the way they do, I trust those in their immediate lives and purposefully don’t consider the outcome if those people are wrong.
The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction makes sense.
Perhaps they were misguided by “I’ll end war in Ukraine in 24hrs” and thought fascist immigrant raids bare the same probability 🤷♂️
these people could care less about ukraine, they only care about anti-wokeness and cutting any “lib-policy”
His only alternatives would have been to vote for a Democrat, or stay home and risk a Democrat being elected.
nah, he cant have that dint he wont be able to say he voted republican to hurt the libs, or get ostracizes from his community.