• QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works
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    8 hours ago

    I’m hearing the shooter had a trans girlfriend from a right wing friend of mine, but I can’t find proof, does anyone know what he’s talking about?

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      1 hour ago

      He had a trans roommate, but it hasn’t been verified that they were in a relationship. In fact, it might not even be verified that they’re trans. It’s too early to believe this stuff.

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      7 hours ago

      No. It’s likely he’s just repeating some propaganda. There’s been a lot of accusations with no proof and this is probably another one.

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        6 hours ago

        Apparently Right Wing Media is reporting he had a trans girlfriend. But I can’t find any trustworthy sources.

        Even the New York Post article I read says that the person was neither his girlfriend or even trans (but totally considering it)

        Mostly the article spun its wheels saying how much Kirk practiced love by hating transpeople. Because war is peace don’t you know…

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      3 hours ago

      I highly doubt that, that sounds like something conservative media would make up and people would repeat far too much.

      Here’s the relevant casing message:

      Notices Bulge. OwO What is this?

      It’s possible he’s talking about personal experience, it’s also possible he’s just spreading hate. We don’t know which it is, and we probable won’t until the investigation gets further along.

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        43 minutes ago

        I’ve heard it’s a 10 year old meme from furry communities that’s just about bulges from erections in general, not really a gender/trans thing.

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        3 hours ago

        I googled “Kirk Shooter Trans Girlfriend”, but the only media I could find reporting it were Fox News and New York Post, and the latter admitted the person in question was neither trans nor the shooter’s lover, just that they were “Cooperating with the FBI”

        The NYP was especially vile as it just went on about how great of a guy Kirk was, paradoxically claiming Kirk was practicing love and kindness by being openly transphobic. How Orwellian.

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          Eh, I wouldn’t call it Orwellian. It’s pretty well l own that Fox News isn’t really news (local fox news channels are, just not the national “Fox News,” which is “news entertainment”). Likewise, the NYP is pretty awful and slanted.

          It would be Orwellian if all the major networks were saying the same, wrong thing.

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            38 minutes ago

            I meant Orwellian in that they claimed one thing (Charlie Kirk is loving and caring) and their example was the exact opposite (Charlie Kirk hating transpeople)… War Is Peace and all that

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      Some marking on the bullet got around, I think it was TRN but that’s the manufacturer of the bullet if it’s accurate. Apparently that is, I willI will say cause there’s been so much crap about this douche being killed it’s muddying any real info. Also read that the manufacturer doesn’t make bullets for that caliber (30 odd 6? For a hunting rifle, I don’t know guns well but know it’s a hunting type still) so I really dunno and I did not look into that so need to check that out if it’s important to the story. I only saw the the manufacturer didn’t make that caliber from a single comment but read many with the bullet marking and one mentioned the pic going around is a 9mm.

      Don’t take my word for this Ive just been reading about the story, but it’s what I’ve gleened from them all.

      It appears he was just a more extreme right wing person than even the deceased is and that provoked him into action. Seems likely from due to how easily they’re (extreme right wing) provoked in general.

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        7 hours ago

        Just a slight correction, it’s “thirty ought six” or “30-06” where thirty is the caliber(diameter of projectile) and ought six is the year the military adopted it. Not that that makes much difference, I’m just a nerd.

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          I appreciate the correction I always heard odd not ought but probably cause I heard it much, much younger heh. Grew up in a small town in Canada so was just thinking how I heard it (seriously all these years heard 30 odd 6 in my memory), maybe our accent too. Have a good one, appreciate the knowledge! Always a good day when you learn something new, doesn’t happen as often these days.

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        We have specific wording. The most relevant is, “Notices Bulge. OwO What is this?”

        That has been reported by the governor of Utah, and Gov. Cox is actually pretty hesitant to repeat nonsense, unlike other governors in very red states. He actually seems to care a bit about trans people, at least trans kids, and I wonder if maybe he has someone in his family who is trans.

        I hope that helps. If you want to find the others, just look up “Kirk casings messages” on whatever media source you trust.