• queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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        Libya was also a country outside the NATO bloc that was lead by a government that the West wanted gone. There are similarities.

        Libya wasn’t the first time NATO destroyed a country either, they also destroyed Yugoslavia. It’s not a defensive alliance if it keeps attacking and destroying counties, whether or not you think it destroyed them for the Western imperial project.

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        If you can’t see that nato always wants to genocide russians you are either very uninformed or ignore it intentionally

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      So what does that have to do with Russia?

      Did Nato threaten to use nukes? No Nato also doesnt attack, its a defense pact, so stop spreading russian propaganda.

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        NATO destroyed Libya and Yugoslavia, it’s as much a “defensive” pact as the Israeli “Defense” Force is. And yes, NATO does threaten with nukes, that was the entire reason why the USSR sent Cuba nukes through project Anadyr, as a response to the Jupiter missiles stationed in Turkey and the overextension of NATO into East German territory. This practice hasn’t stopped, NATO encircles countries and threatens them with obliteration if they don’t capitulate and free up their markets for western plunder.

          • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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            What “shit” did I spew? Which of these do you disagree with:

            1. The west is imperialist

            2. NATO destroyed Libya

            3. NATO destroyed Yugoslavia

            4. NATO placed the Jupiter missiles in Turkey and directly aimed them at the USSR, prompting the USSR to send nukes to Cuba

            5. The IDF is an offensive force for settler-colonialism, not a defensive force

            6. NATO over-extended into East German territory

            7. NATO encircles countries to open them up for foreign plunder

            All of these are well-established facts. In light of this, the Russian Federation is indeed under constant threat from NATO, a legacy of conflict that began in the Cold War against the Soviets and continues today against the RF. Russia’s survival as a country against NATO lies on nuclear deterrance, if they stop reminding NATO, then NATO will of course be more likely to cross red lines.

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              All of them are at least partially wrong.

              Is russia trying to annex territory that doesnt belong to them right now or not? Yes or no answer please.

              Let me know how the west is annexing other countries making them imperalist.

              Nobody ever wanted or needed to attack Russia. Nato is not a country nor is it annexing territory nor is it forcing people to join it. That is straight up russian propaganda to supress the real problems within the country and to distract. You have a fucking monarch up there with more wealth than he would ever need and yet this guy decides to attack a country minding its own business.

              Btw, Ukraine used to rely on nuclear deterrance but it was Russia (and not nato) attacking it after signing multiple deals that it wouldnt.

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                None of them are wrong at all, and you didn’t elaborate on any of that. The mere fact that you deny western imperialism is proof enough that you have a fundamentally lacking understanding of what’s going on in the world. Imperialism isn’t “annexation,” it’s a process of extraction and plunder. the West exports large amounts of financial capital to super-exploit for super-profits, and uses immense millitary force to protect that system. NATO is the means to protect this.

                Same with you denying that the IDF is a terrorist army for settler-colonialism, this is pure Zionism. I only hope that you were speaking irrationally out of an emotional response and do not genuinely see the IOF as defensive.

                As for Ukraine, it broke both Minsk agreements, admitted to never intending on following them, and continued slaughtering ethnic Russians in the Donbass region.

                  • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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                    Being rational, consistent, and a communist is “Russian propaganda shit?” Amazing. It’s funny how you just pretend that you didn’t notice the instance my account is with, which is the same as the community we are both on, so you can avoid grappling with the fact that you defended the IOF and minimized the impact of western imperialism.