• tellah@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    Right, so we all better just let the Russian regime take whatever it wants, such as Ukrainian territory, in this case. Or else they will use nuclear bombs. And it’ll be everyone else’s fault, because we didn’t want to let them take whatever they wanted.

    Russia is totally the good guy here, and if we don’t let them do whatever they want, they’ll use nukes and we will deserve it.

    Am I getting that right?

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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          That’s precisely the reason to avoid a nuclear holocaust instead of rushing into it. Anybody who has a death wish can just off themselves without involving the rest of humanity.

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            1 year ago

            That’s a good line to use on Putin.

            Realistically, if Putin uses the nuclear codes, this is what happens:

            A few warheads in Russia explode in their silos and the government blames the West. A bunch of other warheads are harmlessly shot down. A few actually find their targets and a few million people are wiped out. The west retaliates and suddenly the war is over.

            BICS then becomes ascendant in global power, China claims Taiwan and the Philippines and possibly Japan, and Israel is wiped off the face of the earth as all sides turn it into a nuclear slag pile, killing Israelis, Palestinians and a large number of Lebanese and Syrians in the bargain.

            Then things adjust to the new normal and economies rebuild, with the noted absence of Russia and Belarus.

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                I grew up in the cold war. I’ve done the drills. I know both what the fear of an all-out nuclear holocaust is, and I know that the reality will be something entirely different.

                Did you not see what happened to Russia’s latest Satan II ICBM? Thankfully that one wasn’t armed.

                • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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                  No, you don’t know that the reality will be different. This is something that has never happened before, and only a certifiably insane person would try and downplay the horror of a nuclear war.

                  Did you not see what happened to Russia’s latest Satan II ICBM? Thankfully that one wasn’t armed.

                  Do you know how many missiles Russia has, even if a tenth of them go off we’re all fucked. And frankly, people who don’t care about dying can just kill themselves any time they want. What fucking right do you have to gamble with billions of lives of other people?