• flop_leash_973@lemmy.world
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    Petitions like this are meaningless unless they come with a viable solution to the duopoly in payment processing that is Visa and Mastercard.

    It doesn’t matter what Valve agrees with, if they want to survive as a business they have to ultimately do what the only 2 companies that handle the payment processing tells them to do.

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      17 hours ago

      You’re missing the point. This is not aimed at Valve, but at Visa and MasterCard. They are businesses. They primarily care about profit, not censorship. Especially when that pisses people off. They made the mistake of listening to the vocal minority of Collective Shout, so we have to let them know that. This isn’t the 80’s anymore, gaming is mainstream and there are far, far more gamers than puritanical Quakers that get the vapors at the sight of anything mature or complicated. And worst-case scenario, they are not the only payment processors, just the most convenient ones for customers and businesses. For now…

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        11 hours ago

        Are you calling them Quakers as a derogatory slur or are they actually Quakers/Religious Society of Friends people.

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          A “slur”? No. But I was referring to the overly strict, hair-splitting kind of religious extremism that adheres to the letter of the law, not the spirit/intent.

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          I don’t get either of those contexts.

          When I read “Quakers”, I just recalled Quake III Arena and thought, “that doesn’t fit”.

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            Quakers were some anti authority religious minority (Christian) in Scotland/England. They were notorious for their lack of respect. E.g. used “thy” instead of the formal you. (English changed since then and the informal thy fell out of use)

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              Quakers were

              Are. They’re still around. Still a relatively big minority Christian group in the UK.

              Still everyone’s favourite Christian denomination. Cool bunch.

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          4 hours ago

          It was 3 in the morning here. Relax.

          Edit: Oh, you just wanted to argue. Definitely sorry I was late for that…

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        18 hours ago

        For example they could sell adult games under credits only and take CC or PayPal for credits.

        This way you’re not buying adult titles with CC at all. Same way AAA deal with gambling with lootboxes.

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          11 hours ago

          You do know what happens to Valve Time any time someone tells Gabe to hurry up, right?

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            11 hours ago

            Haha, it’s funny, because I tried to make this a joke about HLIII, but I didn’t want to jinx it…d’oh!

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      23 hours ago

      Consumers punting the accountability and responsibility of their demise to the next generation of consumers. I hate how feeble and weak willed we are all as a species.

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        23 hours ago

        we have been like this lately, but humans are definitely not weak willed or feeble at all.

        shit, the right wing nuts are killing themselves over their beliefs rn.