• azertyfun@sh.itjust.works
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    3 days ago

    Fabric is superior in comfort and cost.

    But if you absolutely want leather for looks/stain resistance, there historically hasn’t been much of a choice. Plastic fake leather alternatives degrade pretty badly under UV light, causing cracking/flaking after just a few years. As anyone who has owned a fake leather chair or jacket would have noticed. But the expected lifetime of a car interior is measured in decades.

    The article mentions some startup innovating on new synthetic hemp-based fake leather, it’ll be interesting to see if they can match the long-term durability of genuine leather. Otherwise it’ll be a shame if those interiors fall apart in 5-10 years, reupholstering an entire car is not a small job.

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      2 days ago

      Fabric isn’t superior in comfort, it has way too much friction. Definitely the cheaper and greener option though.

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          1 day ago

          Lmao

          It’s a very different fabric from seats, which need to last way longer and use tougher fabrics.

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        2 days ago

        I mean, it’s a matter of opinion, but leather sucks in hot and in cold weather. It doesn’t breathe so I get super sweaty, and it gets super cold in winter. So luxury cars compensate with heated seats and in-seat ventilation…

        I’ve never considered the friction of my car seat to even be a factor, I don’t tend to move much once I’m sat down.

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          2 days ago

          I can’t even stand clothes that rub against my skin the wrong way, let alone car seats lol. Maybe some sort of sensory overload issue for me.

          Where I live, it gets so cold you can’t drive away right after starting the engine anyway, you won’t see through your windows. You start the engine and heated seats and heated rear window (and front if you have a Ford) and then start clearing the ice off your windows.

          In the summer, hot car is hot regardless of seats. Start the car and AC, have a cigarette or finish your chat, then get in the car.

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            1 day ago

            In the summer, hot car is hot regardless of seats. Start the car and AC, have a cigarette or finish your chat, then get in the car.

            If you dont have ass melting leather, you can just roll the windows down and drive off instantly as the motion creates a breeze to push out the hot air. Even with AC, leather becomes sticky with sweat, there simply no win for it.

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              1 day ago

              Never seen windows cool a car down enough in the summer. I also cool my car to about 15C in the summer. What sweat?

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                1 day ago

                The sweat produced between your body and the seat because leather is waterproof and doesnt breath.

                Also you dont need windows to cool it all the way down… just enough to remove the excess heat as the AC takes its time to get cool…

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                  1 day ago

                  Or just don’t get in the car before it’s cold lol, wouldn’t do that with cloth seats either plus I wouldn’t want to sweat into those anyway, they absorb the sweat

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                    1 day ago

                    I dont have money to waste on a half gallon of gas for the seats to get cold enough. Besides, fabric doesnt feel very hot as it naturally has insulating properties.

                    I have a feeling you live in a mild climate and dont have to deal with 35C with 100% humidity