US president said his horrific blow-up would make ‘great television’ – the White House has never seen anything like it

Summary

Trump just presided over one of the greatest diplomatic disasters in modern history, with flared tempers, raised voices, and shredded protocol.

Never before has a U.S. president bullied and berated an adversary, never mind an ally, in such a public way.

During a tense Oval Office meeting, Trump and JD Vance attacked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, demanding he accept a peace deal with Russia or lose U.S. support.

The conversation devolved into shouting, with Trump accusing Zelenskyy of being ungrateful and “gambling with World War III.”

The meeting ended in chaos, with no agreement reached.

      • Prandom_returns@lemm.eeEnglish
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        12 days ago

        Wait, are you upset your favourite orange sack of shit is the laughing stock of the world, while Zelenskyy is unanimously praised?

        Aw.

    • index@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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      12 days ago

      Zelenskyy is a goddamn hero

      He’s far from being a hero. Zelenskyy just happens to be the president of a country being invaded, if trump was in his place you would be here calling him a hero. Zelenskyy is the president of an authoritarian government who turned to martial law and is drafting people by force while not allowing any male between 18-60 to leave the country.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobilization_in_Ukraine#2024

      “In 2023, harsher methods of mobilization began to be used, such as road blocks, business raids, and pulling people from the streets. In the latter half of 2023, videos surfaced online showing Ukrainian men violently dragged into vans and driven to the military recruiting centers”

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANxo0gBM6GM

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXhC8WREVKM

      • finder@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        12 days ago

        Zelenskyy is the president of an authoritarian government who turned to martial law

        Active invasion of their country from Belarus and Russia. What a brain dead take.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobilization_in_Russia

        Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics

        The mobilization was accompanied by mass raids on men of military age. In the enterprises of the region, up to 80% of employees were called up, which led to shutdown of mines and public transport, as well as the paralysis of cities and public services. To avoid mobilization, residents hid or tried to illegally leave the republics.[21]

        Recruitment of prisoners

        Implementation

        It was reported that Russian authorities were targeting poor, homeless and people from poorer regions of Russia for conscription.[79][80] Russian authorities drafted detained protestors with no previous military experience, including a 17-year-old boy who was arrested at an anti-war demonstration in Moscow.[81]

        On 14 April 2023, Putin signed into law a bill that would allow authorities to issue electronic summons to draftees.[92][93] The law blocks anyone eligible for military service who has received a digital summons from leaving the country.[94] Russian lawyer Valeria Vetoshkina called it a “hidden mobilization.” According to Russian economist Konstantin Sonin, “Now, any person, regardless of whether he took a summons or not, [or] has an account with Gosuslugi or not, can be arrested and convicted for not going to war.”[95] Russian lawyer and human rights activist Ivan Pavlov said that the “only option is to leave the country as soon as possible, but there is very little time for that.”[96]

        • index@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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          12 days ago

          Thanks for reporting on the draft in russia too. Forced conscription is form of slavery and a violation of human rights, it should be abolished and every person should fight against it and against the governments forcing it on people.

          When two countries drafting people by force and not allowing them to leave the country get into a war you get a total disaster where poor people are forced to murder each others. The rulers and government behind these authoritarian polices are criminal and enemies of humanity.

          • stroz@infosec.pubEnglish
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            12 days ago

            When two countries drafting people by force and not allowing them to leave the country get into a war you get a total disaster where poor people are forced to murder each others

            In this situation, one country got into a war. The other is defending its sovereign territory.

            • index@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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              12 days ago

              So if russia were to be attacked by china would it be ok for them to draft people by force to defend their sovereign territory? If you were someone living in russia would you be ok with putin goons arresting you if you try to leave the country?

  • LustyArgonian@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    13 days ago

    Wrote up a summary months ago (with reputable sources!) about this stuff, and was permabanned from Lemmy news and politics for it.

    Idk man, you can tell people stuff, but it’s so hard for them to access what’s real right now. There’s a concerted online effort to suppress factual info.

    https://lemmy.world/comment/13431373

  • troglodytis@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    13 days ago

    Why would any nation that does not have nukes not start making nukes right now?

    The USA has shown over and over, it’s the only thing we take seriously. We don’t give a fuck until you have nukes. We don’t care about treaties, alliances, deals. We only care if you can start the nuke wars. Anything else is just “how can we take advantage of you?”

    Also … World, I understand you’re not reading this, but for the three of ya that do, boycott us. Tariff the shit out of us. You got this, and thanks for all the fish.