• skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de
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      19 hours ago

      Eventually. The budget approval and equipment ramp-up will have a lag of months at minimum. Now is the time to rent all the white vans and hide them in an abandoned factory so they have nothing to drive but George’s mom’s Chevy Nova.

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        20 hours ago

        Ukraine has trained military personnel and instruction from the finest minds in the West. And actual armor of their own. This is no comparison, you need to temper your expectations.

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          They didn’t at the beginning. They had a half assed army barely supplied, a navy with no ships and an Airforce that was basically grounded. Using equipment from the 1970’ and 80’s. Look it up. Their military was at best backwater until the Russians invaded Crimea. Quit making excuses.

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            I’m aware. What little Ukraine had to start with is more than any collective group of counter protesters in the USA have access to right now. They also had sovereignty that world powers could throw weight behind. What world power is going to sponsor US citizens to fight their own government?

            These aren’t excuses, this is reality.

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              Counterpoint, there are more firearms in possession of the American civilian populace than there were in the Ukrainian military during the February invasion.

              If the American politiy doesn’t want to be governed, it’s going to take a whole lot of concentration camps to make it governable.

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              You won’t get support until you organise and resist. It’s pretty simple. Ukraine didn’t have a backer either. People had their kids and Baba’s filling glass bottles with styrofoam.

              You’ll never gain my support again, ever. Allowing threats of annexation of Canada and silence from all of 'murica on that subject. Instigation of economic warfare on us was just another strike. Now it’s the complicity of the American people to complete fascism and arguments against doing anything to stand up for yourselves and your neighbors.

              I’ll meet you at the border though when they press you into service for the water wars. No matter how prepared I am.

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          Oh please, the entire world has skin in this game. The world’s most powerful country has been overrun by fascists, and half the people who can stop it before it leaves its borders are too “scawed” to do anything and the other half is rooting for the fascists.

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            19 hours ago

            So many cowards with big mouths and big guns sitting at home waiting for the rest of us to straighten out their mess.

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              17 hours ago

              Nobody asked you for help. Just pointing out it’s easy to ask someone else to become Tank Man.

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                I’ll remember that no one asked for my help. I’ll remember that in fact when I offered help I was told to go away and fuck off long before your drumphkins was brought to power twice. I’ll remember that you’re fascist lovers and refuse to fight for yourselves. I’ll remember that you don’t need me or my countrymen even when we are in your country volunteering to help. No worries there. I have lots of first hand experience to solidify those memories.

                Good luck with that when you really do need us to help because at this rate it’s coming faster than you can imagine. You and your countrymen have guaranteed my skills will not be offered to assist nor will those of anyone who will listen to me and people like me and read your comments.

                Being a coward is easy. Standing up to fascists is hard. Back to the couch.