The family of a Canadian national who supported Donald Trump’s plans for mass deportations of immigrants say they are feeling betrayed after federal agents recently detained the woman in California while she interviewed for permanent US residency – and began working to expel her from the country.

  • Zachariah@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Yeah, you’re right. Ends don’t justify means. Even if it put an end to ICE, it is at the price of human suffering I would be directly causing. That’s what’s been stopping me.

    I had to ask though because everything is just so terrible, it’s hard to know what to do about anything with what minute amount of power I have to actually change anything.

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      Nah I think it’s fine to rat them out. I don’t get this idea that they can vote to hurt people en masse but it’s verboten to suggest they go through it themselves? And nothing is going to change these people except for being forced to empathize. They’re on the sidelines of a bloodsport cheering ICE on as they destroy lives. When they say this is what they voted for, they voted for the spectacle. They voted to hurt people. Ratting them out to ICE is the least they deserve.

      • ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        I mean, if it was the actual person that voted that way, and not only the spouse. A person should not suffer the decisions of their spouse if it leads to torture. If the immigrant can vote and they didn’t vote for it, they can’t be blamed. …assuming they can vote at all. Actually, that can’t happen, so no people shouldn’t rat.

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        In the meantime, there is a distinct possiblity that someone who had no say in the process and is not at fault for the current situation gets deported to a warzone or an extra-judicial torture prison. That is an unacceptable result.

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          Agree. What Trumpists are doing is disgusting. We have members of our populace rabidly cheering this stuff on. They love the cute propagandized “Alligator Alcatraz” to the point where I’m pretty sure they have merch with it on it. We’ll probably see Trump wearing one of those stupid fucking red trucker hats saying Alligator Alcatraz on it. Imagine Hitler doing a PR campaign for Auschwitz.

          Wait, what if he did …

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              23 hours ago

              Widespread racist hatred from white conservatives. That’s about it. That’s the primary force behind the MAGA movement. They’re racist in the extreme but would never admit to it because they’ve been given a convenient out…

              “ILLEGAL”.

        • ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          Don’t be. People who are being deported can’t vote and have no right to control the vote of their spouse. It’s bad to draw ICE to them.