Well, I never said they were. They aren’t the only ones being targeted. The kind of pedantic excuse crafting that you’re doing right here, is the kind of nonsensical rationalization that is always deployed when that vicious, violent, predatory nation does what it always does.
No. When a military attacks a civilian structure like that they have to prove they acted proportionally, and that they acted to minimize casualties of innocents. Israel never provides that proof and they do this all the time, so absent that poof they are legally war crimes. Its well established law. There is no “of a sort” – theres war crimes and not war crimes. Israel commits war crimes and this was yet another war crime. They cant just pretend any amount of dead civilians near a “target” is just fine. Thats not how any of this works. It’d be the same war crime if they blew up a stadium full of people to kill one man.
They don’t need to publish proof according to international law and it’s uncommon for any country to provide that. Operational security usually precludes that anyway. Proof and such come into play in a trial or Knesset parliamentary inquiry. Both of which have brought clarity in the past on Israeli action.
Proportionality assessment is done by IDF officers and lawyers. They want their asses covered, because war crimes are also crimes under Israeli law and they want to continue traveling abroad. Proportionality is always judged by if the action is conducive to reach the military objective, while at the same time minimizing civilian casualties and damages. Zero civilian casualties is not required according to international humanitarian law.
Anything Israel does is immediately labeled a war crime by some parties, regardless of what’s actually going on.
It’d be the same war crime if they blew up a stadium full of people to kill one man.
That would only be proportional under special circumstances, like if that man was extremely important, time was critical, and there was no other feasible way to target and get him. If that one man is a combatant and legitimate military target, he is also committing a war crime by hiding among civilians using them as human shields.
So in the case of man in a stadium it would have to be literally Hitler about to launch another world war to justify blowing up the whole building. You can only get him there, because he‘s in the bunker connected to the stadium at all other times. In that case the stadium would also be filled with high ranking officers and party officials, but you said only one man. If you have a precision guided missile able to blow up only the VIP lodge, that would change the proportionality assessment of course. Proportionality depends on the objective.
Israel‘s attacks on the apartment buildings only took out specific apartments, not destroy the whole building. This can be seen on footage from Iranian tv.
So no, it’s not the same war crime, if it’s even a war crime.
I hate to sound like I’m defending Israel, but it’s possible Iran shot down some of their missiles, which have to go somewhere. It’s looking like the vast majority of the strikes were aiming for military targets.
If a missile, ballistic or otherwise, is intercepted no the missile will not simply be diverted it will be compromised by the interceptor.
The more complex the warhead the more likelihood an interception will neutralize it.
Even a JDAM or other simple bomb if it is intercepted in the air, is now set upon a path where the explosive potential is dismantled and exploited over time… in a great rushing of empty air… not a single, mighty bang at the instant the warhead touches the roof of a school or home.
The most extreme example is a nuclear bomb, which is usually treated in pop culture as a type of bomb you have to be VERY careful not to bump into too hard… but that actually totally misunderstands the terror of a nuclear bomb, the detonation sequence of a nuclear bomb has to go off like a finely tuned wristwratch starting up, something smashing into a nuclear bomb with great velocity and momentum will simply dismantle the wristwratch into possibly radioactive pieces, but they are harmless relative to the careful orchestrated opening to a show that was thankfully permanently cancelled by the interception.
If you shoot down a missle it shouldn’t explode on impact and cause massive building damage like we are seeing in the photos. The largest thing you should see is like a street sign sticking into a building wall. It’s more likely the missiles missed if we are giving credit, but I doubt it. We’ll see when 3 days of this shit ends and what targets ended up being hit
Targetted military installations, Israel said. But seems they instead hit residential apartment complexes. So, yet another war crime.
Well this is Israel’s big skillset. They are a culture organized around the oppression and murder of innocents.
Iranian revolutionary guard generals are not innocent and actually quite good at oppression.
Well, I never said they were. They aren’t the only ones being targeted. The kind of pedantic excuse crafting that you’re doing right here, is the kind of nonsensical rationalization that is always deployed when that vicious, violent, predatory nation does what it always does.
But like, did you see how menacing the curtains looked?!?
I sent a screenshot of that to my people earlier - highlighting the discrepancy. It’s astounding how blatantly the media carries water for them.
They targeted military leaders in those apartments. So still military targets of some sort.
No. When a military attacks a civilian structure like that they have to prove they acted proportionally, and that they acted to minimize casualties of innocents. Israel never provides that proof and they do this all the time, so absent that poof they are legally war crimes. Its well established law. There is no “of a sort” – theres war crimes and not war crimes. Israel commits war crimes and this was yet another war crime. They cant just pretend any amount of dead civilians near a “target” is just fine. Thats not how any of this works. It’d be the same war crime if they blew up a stadium full of people to kill one man.
They don’t need to publish proof according to international law and it’s uncommon for any country to provide that. Operational security usually precludes that anyway. Proof and such come into play in a trial or Knesset parliamentary inquiry. Both of which have brought clarity in the past on Israeli action.
Proportionality assessment is done by IDF officers and lawyers. They want their asses covered, because war crimes are also crimes under Israeli law and they want to continue traveling abroad. Proportionality is always judged by if the action is conducive to reach the military objective, while at the same time minimizing civilian casualties and damages. Zero civilian casualties is not required according to international humanitarian law.
Anything Israel does is immediately labeled a war crime by some parties, regardless of what’s actually going on.
That would only be proportional under special circumstances, like if that man was extremely important, time was critical, and there was no other feasible way to target and get him. If that one man is a combatant and legitimate military target, he is also committing a war crime by hiding among civilians using them as human shields.
So in the case of man in a stadium it would have to be literally Hitler about to launch another world war to justify blowing up the whole building. You can only get him there, because he‘s in the bunker connected to the stadium at all other times. In that case the stadium would also be filled with high ranking officers and party officials, but you said only one man. If you have a precision guided missile able to blow up only the VIP lodge, that would change the proportionality assessment of course. Proportionality depends on the objective.
Israel‘s attacks on the apartment buildings only took out specific apartments, not destroy the whole building. This can be seen on footage from Iranian tv.
So no, it’s not the same war crime, if it’s even a war crime.
You don’t have a clue, do you?
I very much do, I live here.
I hate to sound like I’m defending Israel, but it’s possible Iran shot down some of their missiles, which have to go somewhere. It’s looking like the vast majority of the strikes were aiming for military targets.
If a missile, ballistic or otherwise, is intercepted no the missile will not simply be diverted it will be compromised by the interceptor.
The more complex the warhead the more likelihood an interception will neutralize it.
Even a JDAM or other simple bomb if it is intercepted in the air, is now set upon a path where the explosive potential is dismantled and exploited over time… in a great rushing of empty air… not a single, mighty bang at the instant the warhead touches the roof of a school or home.
The most extreme example is a nuclear bomb, which is usually treated in pop culture as a type of bomb you have to be VERY careful not to bump into too hard… but that actually totally misunderstands the terror of a nuclear bomb, the detonation sequence of a nuclear bomb has to go off like a finely tuned wristwratch starting up, something smashing into a nuclear bomb with great velocity and momentum will simply dismantle the wristwratch into possibly radioactive pieces, but they are harmless relative to the careful orchestrated opening to a show that was thankfully permanently cancelled by the interception.
Israel admitted they targetted apartment buildings where leaders lived. Its not a missile shootdown.
If you shoot down a missle it shouldn’t explode on impact and cause massive building damage like we are seeing in the photos. The largest thing you should see is like a street sign sticking into a building wall. It’s more likely the missiles missed if we are giving credit, but I doubt it. We’ll see when 3 days of this shit ends and what targets ended up being hit
Eh not necessarily tbh, we see that in Ukraine daily - debris of shot down rockets and drones doing substantial damage to whatever is below.