The world should wake up from tech dependence. Let the EU massively invest in FOSS.

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    Do people really still need to be explained why proprietary software is bad?
    I have zero understanding of why an organization like ICC would use it? Any court needs to be independent, and using proprietary software clearly compromises that. The same goes for public services. And private enterprises should of course avoid it in their own interest.

    Open source proponents have tried to explain this simple fact for more than 20 years. But 90% of people simply don’t care even just a little.

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      6 hours ago

      Every new generation has to learn themselves hard way about proprietary software, fascism and market failures, it seems.

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      Just speaking as someone in the field, you would be surprised at how many IT decisions happen the way they do because nobody wants to be the one who gets called when an ornery geriatric complains that LibreOffice doesn’t have the ‘mail merge’ button in the right place.

      The old saying goes, “nobody ever got fired for buying Cisco.”

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        You are absolutely right, and I can understand that for a company IT department, but for public institutions, there are so many factors that speak for using open source software.
        Public institutions have requirements of for instance transparency private businesses don’t have.
        Here universities have been aware of this for all of those 20+ years, and usually the ones that advice governments come from universities.
        But somehow monetary interests comes in between, and lobby their expensive proprietary solutions. And that’s the real problem I think, proprietary vendors have loads of money for lobbying, while open source has almost zero.

        The old saying goes, “nobody ever got fired for buying Cisco.”

        That would be IBM, and that saying is from way before Cisco was even founded.

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      I’ve been attempting to convert as much of my digital life to open source alternatives over the last few years, and I can’t tell you how many people tell me it’s unsafe to do since “just anyone can work on it”. Most people really believe capital = expertise, and that’s a hard nut to crack.

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        That’s been one of the cornerstones of Microsoft propaganda against open source. So it’s not strange that the uninformed are exactly that, uninformed.
        It’s worse when the professionals fall for it, and fail to recommend good solutions to politicians.

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        Capital IS expertise. Expertise in command and control, thus shaping the narrative in order to bend it to their will.

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        I don’t even understand that. The still-thriving, 30-year history of video game warez really says otherwise.

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        Those people are those without passion. I’d pay $50 for any FOSS I use regularly

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          I did, in fact! I bought Immich for $100, and you know what? I don’t regret a god damn thing. It has been a stellar replacement for Google Photos, which was an app I depended on every day for, God, like 10 years now?

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      Do people really still need to be explained why proprietary software is bad?

      The degree of overreach by a US company, in this instance, is shocking. Yes, you can go spill a gallon of ink talking about how American software companies have been the tip of the spear for intelligence gathering, propagandizing, and sabotage. But I would say that an international business with a huge future stake in European implementation of their software spiking a criminal court’s Outlook servers over prosecution of an ongoing genocide is a new low.

      Open source proponents have tried to explain this simple fact for more than 20 years.

      Open source is a far cry from bulletproof. We could just as easily see Mossad fucking with a poorly implemented Linux iteration of an email distribution agent. But then the assumption is that the Israelis - being heavily integrated into the European socio-economic system - are on Europe’s side. Similarly, Microsoft and Google are supposed to be agents of the Big Friendly American Security State. The thing that shields you from the evil Slavs and Huns and Muslims, not the thing that stabs you in the back.

      Part of this is corruption (Big Tech lobbyists effectively bribing public official to adopt their software), part of it is laziness (corporate sales reps go out of their way to make early adoption relatively easy and backload the real costs until later), part of it is the networking effect (thanks to the above there is an abundance of Microsoft-centric IT companies and experienced users who have already adapted to the privatized frameworks).

      But this isn’t a problem you can simply explain your way out of. Ultimately, you need a structural change in how these institutions do business. You need ICC that has insourced its IT and is capable of self-administration, rather than a bunch of outsourced flunkies who exist as a way to pad a contractor’s wallet. You need a public that is adopting good IT practices at the grade school level, rather than feeding at the trough of private subsidies and philanthropies to defer the up front cost of technical education. You need an IT community that is well-organized and unionized and hostile to the corporate model of development and distribution of for-profit systems. Not a bunch of freelancers that see Microsoft Certification as a meal ticket.

      But 90% of people simply don’t care even just a little.

      90% of people (honestly closer to 99.9% of people) don’t believe they have any say over IT policies at their own offices, much less at the scale of the a trans-national criminal court.

      They do not genuinely believe they live in a democratic institution and roll over in compliance for fear of some form of reprisal, because that’s how they’ve been trained to behave from their earliest days of life.

      It isn’t a matter of caring nearly so much as it is a matter of learned helplessness.

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        The degree of overreach by a US company, in this instance, is shocking.

        Yes, but they do many other types of shenanigans that are against the interest of their users. Like snooping, and lock in attempts, stifling competition and charging high prices for services that cost next to nothing to deliver. Those things are completely apart from the fact that you have zero control with the software, or insight into back doors or other security issues.

        We could just as easily see Mossad fucking with a poorly implemented Linux iteration

        WTF? Talk about a straw man argument! There’s a reason some of the most demanding and sensitive tasks are completely dominated by Linux. Stock exchanges is is one example of that.