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    I want to feel sorry for them, because they are victims of fraud. But the fraudsters took advantage of their ignorance and bigotry (i.e the “I didn’t know!” and “I thought they’d go after the OTHER guys!” mentality) so I can’t.

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      I thought the same thing. I guess the son, the one who is detained is the green card holder. I guess they got their citizenship without him? Did he break the terms of his green card?

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      Like hell they will. They and the bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe LoL aMiRiTe lazy imbeciles will destroy themselves and the rest of us before they even reject the possibility of bending towards reality a little, and learning something truthful.

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    “But he didn’t say he was going to do this, that he was going to go after people who have been here for a long time,” Rey said. “He said he was going to go after all the criminals who came illegally.

    Gotchu.

    Brian Todd, a spokesperson of CoreCivic, the private prison company that operates Stewart, disputed those accounts of conditions inside the facility.

    God, the United States were a mistake.

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      Any person with an immigrant background should have had their alarm bells going off big time when MAGA used the words “illegal immigrants” as if they were glued together.

      Sheesh. But you know what, my parents are the same. Came to their new home country 5 decades ago, now they’re complaining about “The Immigration Problem” (one with an air of intellectualism, the other like a true MAGA).

      And don’t get me started on private prisons and their PR people. We have footage going back years. It’s not even a new thing, how bad the conditions are.

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        Sadly, from what I understand in the US at least, anti-immigrant sentiment is often common among immigrants themselves after some time has passed. To be clear - I’m sure there’s a lot of nuance that I’m not privy to, please don’t read that as some strict assertion.

        But for instance, from what I understand about the Cuban diaspora in Florida, they are often viciously anti-immigrant.

        Just us humans being humans unfortunately, we got a lotta work to do on ourselves, collectively.

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        A for-profit model is perhaps the only thing that could make prisons worse. Maybe not the only one, but it ranks pretty high among the things that could

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          It already is, it already does.

          And yes: prisoners are effectively paying customers. A good business owner wants to retain them for as long as possible, and make sure they come back.

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      Truly, how could anyone have known that the pathological liar that lies dozen of times in every speech he has ever made, would lie about that?

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    It is terrible if anyone is jailed without due process - even if they voted for this asshat of an administration.

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      Trump said he doesn’t want due process because then we’d have 5 million trials. Sure sounds an awful lot like a “final solution” is coming soon, and 5 million people is his goal number.

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      I feel especially bad because that man was legally here and didn’t even have a vote in this election :( like you said, even if he wasn’t legally here, due process should be afforded to every soul.

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        Giving due process to everyone is the only way to ensure those who deserve it, get it. If they are for some reason not entitled to that right, then the due process will highlight that.

        Also fuck facists.

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      I agree. This administration is pure nazi level evil. One cannot deny that these people voted in the leopards and then put seasoning on their own faces.

      It’s pure stupidity. They have a green card holder in the family and they vote for Trump?

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        That number fluctuates, and is often just “millions”. They are preparing the final solution, I doubt it will stop at any given number though.

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      All of these stupid articles highlight Trump voters so that liberals will jerk off about leopards rather than get angry that completely innocent people are being harmed.

      I wonder how many of the people gloating in this thread have parents who voted for Trump.

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        Better question is “would the son have voted for Trump?”. Then laugh at him if he would have, but not until then.

        As it stands, the better take is not to laugh at him, but to laugh and fully enjoy the parents’ pain about the situation. Savor it.

        My parents did not for him, and I will probably smear it in their face immediately if it ever directly affects them. But we’re white, fully naturalized people who live in a red area, so it will probably take a while. I only voted red once, right after becoming old enough and before I started to break free if the super tight bubble they kept me in.

        But they never had a clue until this election, and they were shocked.

        They usually like to nitpick with me now over bits of news that they think sounds good for them or bad for me. Now after these 100 days, they haven’t said a peep.

        I don’t bring it up much because for the time being I have to depend on them due to medical issues. But I should be ready to get back out within 2 years and I will not be quiet then.

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    Don’t feel sorry for these idiots. They will probably vote for the next GOP puppet because their religion said so or for some single button issue like abortion.

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      I feel sorry for the son who couldn’t vote. But if I were to guess, the apple usually doesn’t fall far from the tree.

      Without knowing though, I feel sorry for the son

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        Kids are usually products of their environment. Kids aren’t born on the political right/left, racist, sexist or anything but blank slates. This is why so many reject their religions and parental views when they move out. Give kids an outlet to explore what they like. No indoctrination. You’ll be amazed at who they become.

        So in that sense, I do feel sorry for the son, maybe his new location he will see the light and wake the fuck up.

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      There is nothing in the bible against abortion. There are instructions for forcing a woman to have an abortion when her husband suspects she has been cheating. (Numbers 5: 11-31) and many places throughout the bible command the killing of “their little ones” by dashing them against the rocks and ripping open the bellies of pregnant women in enemy towns. Kidnapping the young girls who are virgins to be used as sex slaves. The bible has some sick twisted snuff porn in it, but it doesn’t take issue with abortion.

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        Correct, but modern Christians take issue with it because they’ve been conditioned to hate it. The true sheep of society is the religious right wing. The book is definitely sick.

        Compare the Ten Commandments with the 7 tenets of the satanic temple. I’m going with Satan every time.

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              I used to dabble in the noodly appendages but I was put-off how serious people seemed to be taking the whole thing.
              That’s how things always start: the initial group makes a joke, the second group pretends to follow it, and then later down the line people actually buy-in. It’s essentially the 4Chan playbook.

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                That’s something I’ve always though. That “thunder is a god fighting the frost giants” started as a joke. Like many other religions.

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            been a long time since I read the book, but didn’t the original tenets include a bunch of edgy language like destroying anyone who encroached on your freedom? This reads like it has been sterilized.

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          Prior to the Civil Rights Act, the rallying cry of racist White Christians was interracial marriage. After the Civil Rights Act, churches that openly espoused racism, lost their tax exemption. So they changed the lyrics to their racist war cry and started talking about protecting the unborn. They don’t give a shit about children. Look what they say about school lunches, welfare, and medical care. They would happily watch every child in the country starve before they would make a rich man pay taxes.

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          I assume there were certain herbal medicines the temple priests knew. There are probably rabbis who still know them today. I have read that the seeds of wild carrots (Daucus carota) can be used for birth control. I don’t know any plants that cause miscarriage but I met a Shoshone medicine man when I was about 12 years old. He said their herbal medicines include knowledge of plants that can ease childbirth but also induce an abortion, but they don’t share that knowledge with White people, for fear of it being abused or banned.