It’s Musk’s drug of choice

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    6 days ago

    Hard dissociatives can make you lose your grasp on reality?

    REEEEAAALLLY?

    Wow, I’m absolutely stunned at this new information.

  • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.zip
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    7 days ago

    Wait, you mean persistent drug abuse can lead to a state of psychosis where people act impulsively, have delusions of grandeur, and have no regard for how their actions impact others?

    Surely there aren’t any other historical figures we can compare this to.

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    John Lilly, a neurophysiologist and psychedelic researcher who once used LSD to investigate dolphin communication, famously abused ketamine until he believed that he was contacted by an extraterrestrial entity who removed his penis.

    I see, that’s where dandadan got its plot ideas from

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      This statement from the article is a bit misleading. Lilly had this hallucination during a ketamine trip after injecting 150mg. The article makes it sound like a persistent delusion arising from daily use. Lilly abused ketamine for sure, but he didn’t lose his mind. He was a guy who seemed to have strange ideas his whole life. https://www.intuition.org/txt/lilly.htm

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        7 days ago

        Adding to this because I feel a bit annoyed at how John C Lilly gets so badly represented sometimes. He wasn’t a nut job. He was a weird guy with a very unique personality. He had an intense passion for knowledge and scientific inquiry. He also had a massive ego. But he was a reasonably self reflective person. Read his books and watch interviews with him. He wasn’t just a hedonist who got addicted to K. He always had a very non typical experience of reality. He had hallucinations of angels as a child, partly due to a heavily religious upbringing. It’s totally understandable that he was primed for strange trips when he got into psychedelics. But he was able to function as a professional. He had multiple government funded research projects during his career, medical credentials, and owned electrical engineering patents. His characterisation as a kook is very similar to the crap that people say about Tim Leary, who had a successful academic career before being kicked out of Harvard and was actually a very rational person.

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    Last year, Musk told CNN’s Don Lemon that he has a ketamine prescription and uses the drug roughly every other week to help with depression symptoms. When Lemon asked if Musk ever abused ketamine, Musk replied, “I don’t think so. If you use too much ketamine you can’t really get work done,” then said that investors in his companies should want him to keep up his drug regimen.

    I’m not completely sure what the criteria is for “abusing” ketamine, but since Musk seems to know what happens when you use too much ketamine, it seems to me like he’s probably abused it at some point.

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      8 days ago

      Even if someone wants to be completely charitable, and I’m not inclined to do so, there exists a possibility that his dose is too high. How would he know? It could, therefore, produce the same effects as overuse/abuse.

      It’s a little far-fetched to be that charitable, however, and I think it’s more likely he just abuses and tries to hide it. He has billions of dollars and exists in a separate tier of law. Getting a supply of ketamine is probably trivially easy.

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        8 days ago

        Musk got his dealer a government job in DOGE:

        At least 10 DOGE staffers identified by The Post are engineers. Among them is Alexandra Beynon, 36, according to Education Department records seen by The Post and an official with knowledge of the matter. Beynon previously was head of engineering at Mindbloom, a company started by her husband, Dylan Beynon, that “offers guided at-home ketamine therapy to transform your mental health.”