So if Obama, in your opinion, is only definitively worse on immigrants than trump, and everything else is a tie/debatable or worse, then why are you bringing him up? Why not Biden? Why Obama out of nowhere if, by your own admission right now, Trump is worse?
Because Obama also ran on getting out of middle Eastern wars like Iraq /Afghanistan, and also ran on closing Guantanamo Bay, and I believed him, the same way MAGAts believed Trump when he said he was against wars and wouldn’t go into Iran. Why I said I have some sympathy, as I believed the same lie. And Biden also deported more immigrants than Trump, but less than Obama, so I went with Obama there as well.
Yeah, I was young and fell for the Obama Hope & Change rhetoric. So can you make the case that Trump also wanted to stop the wars(which he ran on), but the government(and Israel, but that’s another story) stopped him?
So you agree trump is worse than Obama?
On immigrants, no. On middle east wars, no, but debatable. On anything else, yes.
So if Obama, in your opinion, is only definitively worse on immigrants than trump, and everything else is a tie/debatable or worse, then why are you bringing him up? Why not Biden? Why Obama out of nowhere if, by your own admission right now, Trump is worse?
Because Obama also ran on getting out of middle Eastern wars like Iraq /Afghanistan, and also ran on closing Guantanamo Bay, and I believed him, the same way MAGAts believed Trump when he said he was against wars and wouldn’t go into Iran. Why I said I have some sympathy, as I believed the same lie. And Biden also deported more immigrants than Trump, but less than Obama, so I went with Obama there as well.
So he lied or, like that other person said, the rest of the government stopped him.
Maybe I’m more jaded but I assume all politicians lie, will say things to get elected, or at the very least don’t fulfill all the promises they make.
Yeah, I was young and fell for the Obama Hope & Change rhetoric. So can you make the case that Trump also wanted to stop the wars(which he ran on), but the government(and Israel, but that’s another story) stopped him?