• floofloof@lemmy.caOP
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    Drop Site News reporter Ryan Grim noted that, in addition to striking what appears to have been a defenseless boat, the US also didn’t help rescue any of the shipwrecked men who were aboard the vessel.

    “The Sri Lanka Navy was left to pull the dead bodies from the water,” Grim commented. “I am hard pressed to think of any other nation throughout history that would do something so cowardly and despicable. We are genuinely in a league of our own, and American media—mostly shrugging off the bombing of a girls school and acting as if carpet bombing Tehran is a normal military tactic—is deeply complicit.”

    They torpedoed an unarmed ship and watched as everyone drowned. This is the US military under a drunken white supremacist fratboy working for a senile pedophile rapist.

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      Typically submarines aren’t in a position to offer refuge to shipwrecked sailors, but to my recollection there hasn’t been submarine warfare since WWII. They sank a ship that didn’t present any threat and likely could have been neutralized with a number of alternate approaches.

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        Yup but also, the idea of submarines providing rescue went out the window. Even the nazis were trying to rescue people at one point, and the allies attacked them after they broadcasted their rescue attempts

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laconia_incident

        The US has the most powerful military in the world. This was just cruelty

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        The UK used submarines during the Falklands war.

        The decision was made to sink an Argentinian warship. Critically, they didn’t attack the escort ship. They left it to recover the sailors. Apparently it horrified the British command when it ran, leaving sailors in the water.

        A simple radio message “Move and we will sink you. Take no offensive actions and we will give you 5 minutes to launch lifeboats first.” Hell, even a sonar ping would have given them half a chance.

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      Hey hey whoa whoa whoa, hold up there friend. You forgot Christian nationalist death cultist and pseudo-crusader-wannabe.

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      Iirc, its an unwritten law of sailors… You rescue anyone at sea, even the enemy if you can. Drowning is a horrible death.

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        You at least do what you can to give them a fighting chance.

        A radio message would have at least let them abandon ship in a (semi) orderly manner. Hell, even a solar ping would have got them into life jackets.

        Normally, a sub wouldn’t risk this. They knew in advance, however, that the ship was not currently armed.

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      Accidental double click, must be using a well worn Logitech G500 series (those mice are notorious about the bad switches used in them which results in regular double clicks after about 2.5 years of use).

      • WIZARD POPE💫@lemmy.world
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        Yep. Had to replace the switches in mine after 4 years. Was a g502 but the point is the same. Could not use it as double and triple clicks became commonplace.

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        Corsair seems to suffer that same issues.

        Anyone have any reqs for durable ambidextrous/left handed mice with thumb switches?

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      It was not an illegal order. And it’s also entirely possible the captain didn’t know the status of the ships ammunition supply, or lack there of. Not that it changes anything from a legal standpoint.

      But, it being a legal target doesn’t change the fact that it was cowardly. Both are true.

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      Hot take, if you elect a person who showed in their first term a total disrespect for international, national, and martial law maybe the kind of people you have in the armed forces aren’t likely to be any better. The smart, moral people who also were high enough in the chain of command to matter have likely been purged or jumped ship to something less problematic.

      The naive belief that any laws matter at this late hour is hard to understand, and harder to respect. This isn’t going to blow over and “go back to normal.” Which incidentally wasn’t great either.

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      The US has the single most powerful military force in the world. So when a deranged orange psychopath who has the ego of a cracked eggshell has access to the nuclear football that can call upon the destruction of life as we know it, you’d be careful too.

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      Almost as crazy as how US citizens are too much pussies to even vote, let alone do something about it. Also up there with whining about others not taking care of US citizens responsibilities.

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    Bombing defenseless ships had been Kegsbreath’s hobby and pass time since last fucking year

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    Why Hegseth? He didn’t push the button, but some idiot to whom ordinary Americans would shout “thank you for your service.” “I’m just following orders” is not an excuse, many such people were shot by the Nuremberg Tribunal for war crimes they committed because someone ordered them to.

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      Because responsibility starts with leadership. It’s a very simple concept that current leaders ignore and we pay the price for.

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      The submarine commander didn’t do this unilaterally. He was clearly ordered to do so, and that order would have come from Hegseth or Trump.

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      It’s called command climate. The messaging from those in charge has a direct bearing on how the troops behave. Hegseth has consistently advocated brutality and disregard for international law and human life.

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      No one was shot as a result of Nuremberg trials. And only, like, nine people were hanged as a result of them.

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    Bloodthirsty maga savages did not even give the boys a chance to surrender. You see why Iran regards the Yanks as “The Great Satan”?
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      The us is insane. But looking for sympathy for a religious ethnostate that just murdered thousands of its civilians is a lol. GTFO 🤣

      Everyone sucks here and I couldn’t care less since it’s in the sea in warships. Fuck every last one of both these war mongers.

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        Things were much better in Iran 10 years ago. They were enjoying quite moderate times. But then The Great Satan stabbed them in the back when Trump betrayed the Nukes Deal.

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          There’s a million valid reasons Trumpism is evil, but excusing the utter cruelty the Iranian government wields isn’t one of them.

          Explain how “great satan” forced the Iranian government to murder, maim, jail, and rape protestors last month.

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            You don’t have to excuse anything. In WW2, the US had segregation, the European allies had brutal overseas empires, and the USSR had a police state. Still better than Nazi Germany.

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          Okay, they definitely didn’t just kill thousands of their own people and that definitely would have been Americas fault because treaty 🙄

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          No. Things were much better in Iran in the 70’s before the Islamic revolution took power in 79.

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            Things were so great that the government got overthrown. People got tired of winning, said “Shah, we can’t take so much prosperity!”

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              Is that so hard to believe? Or do I need to remind you that ISIS once controlled regions in the middle East. They weren’t exactly known for their promotion of prosperity, running around burning people alive, destroying museums, raping women and demolishing ancient statues and ruins.

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    Cowardly and despicable… in other words, Trump’s entire administration.

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    I hope he angers Khrusty Noem to point of. Welp, we all know what she does when upset & confronted. Is there a line on what animal/or hegseth she might ixnay in retaliation for her unfortunate day? I know she was simply laterally moved b/c now she is S.H.E.I.L.D. Barbie. Oh Lawd, I wish so hard I was making this up. But nah, we are at this point on the map.🙏