A couple of 20-year-old developers make $500,000 a month promising to help men to stop watching porn, but exposed their private porn watching habits.
A couple of 20-year-old developers make $500,000 a month promising to help men to stop watching porn, but exposed their private porn watching habits.
EDIT: Folks very fairly pointed out the dismissiveness of my wording, and y’all are right. While I do think therapy can and does help with addictions of any type, my wording about guilt rather than addressing the actual addiction only served the humor I was going for and wasn’t respectful for the condition. I’m leaving what I wrote as is below mostly because the quip about birding and boobies still gives me a chuckle.
Men will do literally anything other than go to fucking therapy. Jesus. Guys. You’re allowed to watch porn, let’s just direct the fear of people finding out into finding ethical porn you don’t need to feel guilt for. Or better yet, pay for your porn and support creators directly.
Also find some hobbies that get you out of the goon cave. Take up fucking birding and go find some different boobies.
There’s even great tits!
Not just tits, bushtits too! And boobies of course. Can’t forget the mighty cock.
Hmm. Might need a bird addiction app.
Come to NZ and see a titipounamu, morepork, kaka
Are there any ASMR puppy play birds?
I suppose an appropriately trained parrot might do.
I’m more of a blue tit kind of guy
Therapy is incredibly expensive and most people can’t afford it. You don’t understand how privileged you are if you can afford it
True. I make right around 20k a year and manage to scrape together $155 per visit to my therapist. So I promise I know it’s expensive. I do still think lots of people, of all genders/presentations, that could be in therapy and should be, aren’t and at no fault of their financial situation.
I mean, YMMV on that ethical porn business. I’ve found that to be more of a marketing gimmick than anything I can sleep soundly on.
Might just settle on not feeling guilty for beating off.
I mean if you pay a creator directly I don’t see how that could be unethical
But also, every job under capitalism is unethical. The system is fucked but people still need to eat, so you know, choose your evil I guess
Plenty of actresses and cam girls - particularly those working overseas - are managed directly by pimps or by agencies that function no differently. Plenty more are exploited indirectly in the same way Uber and Lyft exploit their drivers - treated as contract labor, underpaid, and subjected to abuse both off and on camera.
Sure. “No ethical consumption under capitalism”, yadda yadda.
And there’s plenty of arguments for why direct sourcing has better broad economic incentives. But Hugh Hiefner played this game with Playboy sixty years ago, insisting everyone was paid well and treated respectfully. And that was the softest of soft core. Turns out his organization was barely a step above the guys making porn videos for Times Square.
You make the best decisions you can. But at some point you have to recognize that you’re buying a narrative as much as anything.
For you first paragraph I mean, fair, I guess I had an inexplicit assumption that you’re gonna vet the creator/know them (like, say, from social media). Ofc it doesn’t guarantee everything but. Maybe I shouldn’t have said “I don’t see how”, it’s strong wording. I know sex workers irl so it’s them I had in mind.
But still, yes, you’re right, things are, as usual, always a bit of a mess in our world.
I mean, sure. If you know the person IRL for some reason and you’re just sending them money for nudes in a sugar daddy relationship. Idk how common that is in practice though.
But just going on OnlyFans and opening your wallet isn’t any more ethical than hitting up a strip club.
I mean, that’s half the reason for decriminalizing sex work. So you’re not offering up police/prosecutors and associated regulators as leverage over people doing the actual work.
Yup that is mostly marketing bullshit. As long as the creator is having fun it’s ethical to me, still keeping in mind that selling your body is not good but still legitimate because of the system we live in
To be clear though, you should just watch the birds.
Porn addiction has nothing to do with feeling guilty about porn or masturbation, and if you think that’s the problem you have no business pronouncing on it.
Yeah. You’re right. I added an edit because a handful of people have called me out. Ty for the correction.
It never ceases to amaze me how incredibly dismissive people on this platform are toward those suffering from porn addiction. Just imagine telling an alcoholic there’s nothing wrong with drinking beer or that they should “just get some hobbies.”
I can only come up with very cynical reasons for why, of all addictions, this particular one gets ridiculed - even by people who probably consider themselves empathetic and compassionate.
Probably because all of the loudest people talking about porn addiction like to pretend there is no difference looking at porn a few times a week and spending multiple hours every day trapped in a goon cave that you can’t peel yourself out of.
You’re right. I added an edit to give credit to the multiple people calling me out. I 100% jumped on the opportunity for humor. I stand by the core point of people, not just men, needing to be more open to therapy as an option, but amounting the addiction to just feeling guilt for watching porn was disingenuous. Ty for the correction.
It’s exceedingly rare for anyone to acknowledge their error online these days - and for that you have my respect.
Most ethical porn is furry porn hahaha
You’re not wrong, but like gambling, porn addiction exists, but that goes to your first point about therapy. I don’t understand why anyone would load this type of information into an app. I assume it’s ignorance to technology, which is sad, but I can’t help but think how anyone would think it’s a good idea.
Most people don’t really even think about privacy.
Sad but true.
Porn / sex “addiction” does not exist. Some nice folks who were super invested in proving it gave up a while back.
Most people have perfectly average porn / sex use, and are shamed by a partner or cultural messages.
A small percentage of people deal with “OCSB”, out of control sexual behavior.
I disagree, but that’s fine. There are people that squeeze porn into every open minute of their lives, sacrifice relationship is because of it, and spend more than they have to view it. If that’s not addiction, then we might as well say that any non-chemical vice can’t be considered one, like gambling.
Just because many people don’t seem to notice their addiction that doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. The methodology used to disprove the existence of porn addiction is just to completely and utterly ignore all the people who experience it and than claiming it doesn’t exist
I haven’t read any such study myself, but it sounds like a BS study. Anything that controls a person’s life can be considered an addiction. There are certainly people where porn has controlled their lives. One person who’s been very vocal and brutally candid about how it was ruining his life is The Primeagen, a coder on YT. My best friend’s father died in huge debts because he was buying copious amounts of porn outside of his means, and phone sex lines. That’s addiction.
Ahh yes, an “everyone needs therapy because I do” fool.
Never said everyone. If someone is battling addiction, therapy is generally a good idea.
At least they’ll be jerking it with some sunshine.