• Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    46
    arrow-down
    5
    ·
    22 hours ago

    You are ok with Israel killing the person on the right wing that exposed Israel’s involvement in Epstein, and the Kirk assassination?

    He did no such thing. He’s just an antisemitic blowhard who makes up and spreads conspiracy theories and white supremacist hate for a living.

    When the fascist apartheid regime he hates for all the wrong reasons turns out to be guilty of anything he’s accusing them of, that’s not him “exposing” anything, that’s him getting lucky.

    Not so good for further right wing defectors from the party

    He’s not that either. He may be outwardly “rebelling” on some topics, but he’s very much still a part of the fascist club.

    If we don’t cooperate on what we agree on, and stop listening to people telling us to reject allies that aren’t pure enough, told to us by the worst people in the world, then those worst people in the world continue to win

    Except that’s not at all what’s going on here.

    Tucker Carlson doesn’t oppose Israel because he recognizes that Palestinians are human beings. He opposes Israel because he doesn’t believe Jewish people are human beings and conflates them with Israel.

    You’re never going to stop a genocide by pointing out what a good ally someone is for being bigoted towards the people committing it.

    • hector@lemmy.today
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      39
      ·
      22 hours ago

      Very convenient every person that goes against Israel on the left is labeled anti salmon, which, so are you by the way. The same people making that charge also charge you for it. Divide and conquer. It feels hopeless trying to talk sense to people manipulated by organized interests while we disparately are turned against our allies.

      As if we had already won you are riding around on your high horse about “stopping a genocide” spending your time attacking the only ones on the right that have stood against it, an act of bravery at great personal and reputational cost, as you chalk it up to malign motives, as if that should fucking matter right now.

      You know who has even worse motives? Israel. Their superfans and backers. The Evangelicals. I’m sure you will pull together enough support to stop Israel and their fascist designs, on america not just their own area, by working with the ones deemed pure enough. But you aren’t pure enough either by the same people that manipulated you into rejecting allies for lack of purity.

      Grow the fuck up and look past your fucking hand, both hands, including the one stroking yourself off furiously about your moral superiority. If we listen to you, we lose.

      • Postimo@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        33
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        21 hours ago

        we disparately are turned against our allies.

        Tucker Carlson is your ally?

      • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        26
        arrow-down
        5
        ·
        22 hours ago

        Very convenient every person that goes against Israel on the left is labeled anti salmon, which, so are you by the way

        Nope, it’s actually very INconvenient that Zionists conflate anti-zionism with antisemitism.

        That you would accuse me of doing the same thing in your defense of an ACTUAL antisemitic bigot who you claim to be my natural ally is absolutely laughable.

        As if we had already won you are riding around on your high horse about “stopping a genocide”

        Yeah, because FSM forbid that I focus on what the enemy is doing that I oppose rather than hyperfocusing on who opposes the enemy while ignoring almost everything these “allies” say, including their own stated reasons for their opposition 🙄

        spending your time attacking the only ones on the right that have stood against it, an act of bravery at great personal and reputational cost

        Could you please get the bigot-cock out of your mouth for just one second? It’s hard to hear you over the slurping noises.

        as you chalk it up to malign motives

        To quote Maya Angelou, when someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.

        as if that should fucking matter right now.

        It very much does. It has never been easier to find prominent allies willing to speak up against Israel for the right reasons than it is right now.

        Aligning ourselves with the likes of Tucker Carlson, Nick Fuentes, Candace Owens, Perjury Greene, and other bigots doesn’t get us anywhere closer to winning anything. It just gived Zionists an excellent opening for tarring us with the same brush.

        You know who has even worse motives? Israel. Their superfans and backers

        Nah, they’re about equal, as far as motives go.

        The Evangelicals

        Fun fact: that group very much includes Tucker Carlson, a fundamentalist Christian who claims with a straight face that he was attacked in his sleep by a literal demon.

        I’m sure you will pull together enough support to stop Israel and their fascist designs, on america not just their own area, by working with the ones deemed pure enough

        As far as purity tests go, “do you think that all Jewish people are secretly plotting against white Christians” is pretty damn entry level…

        But you aren’t pure enough either by the same people that manipulated you into rejecting allies for lack of purity.

        Nope. There you go again. I embrace anti-zionism while rejecting antisemitism and other bigotry. That REALLY shouldn’t be so hard to understand.

        Grow the fuck up and look past your fucking hand, both hands, including the one stroking yourself off furiously about your moral superiority.

        Wow, the projection is strong with this one 🤦

        If we listen to you, we lose

        Right back at you, buddy!