• sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz
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    3 days ago

    Hate this guy and most things he did. But I seem to remember him being the first president to finally stop our intervention in the middle east in 20 years.

    Oh but that made peeps mad too so, what do they even want really?

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      2 days ago

      But I seem to remember him being the first president to finally stop our direct military intervention in the middle east in 20 years.

      FIFY

      Sending weapons, ammo and money to Israel even whilst they kept on provoking their neighbours and even started a massive Genocide in Gaza does count as “intervention in the Middle-East”, just not direct military intervention.

      Had Biden stopped American intervention in the Middle-East there would not have been a Genocide in Gaza or Israeli attacks on Iran and Lebanon.

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        You’re right. I suppose my expectations are so low I’m just impressed when anybody pulls out of a region and we’re no longer using it as a place to send unwanted bullet sponges. But yeah it probably doesn’t mean much to them if we are still bankrolling the IDF

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      Most of my complaints about Biden concern his foreign policy.

      I thought he was surprisingly effective at domestic affairs, especially considering how reluctant Republicans were to work across the aisle.

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      The way the establishment media “on both sides of the isle” in the US threw a fit when Biden committed to leaving Afghanistan was such clear proof corporate media is obsessed with war at a spiritual level. Yes it has to do with corruption and narrative collusion, but also there has got to be something about dressing up in a fancy suit and telling the world why war is necessary and how awful it is that makes people think “The world needs ME, this job is vitally important!” and makes them lose their shit when anyone tries to question the moral underpinning of a conflict they are in the process of rationalizing.

      From the point of view of establishment media, to question whether a war is just is to utterly miss the point of war itself.

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        3 days ago

        Yeah that shit was wild. The sheer pearl-clutching at the prospect of having left some busted ass C130s or that the region NEEDED us there.

        This whole world police thing is like an addiction. Notice how half a decade later we’re scraping the bag, sizing up other places to go liberate. My country’s been doing this for more years than I’ve been alive, I’m tired boss

    • timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works
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      3 days ago

      Honestly when you see that certain groups will never be happy no matter what you do it makes you understand why in general they are ignored.

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        3 days ago

        The secret is, you can make a population incredibly unhappy just by saying stuff on feeds that they read. It doesn’t even have to make sense, just appeal to whatever frustration the target demographic is feeling that day.

        This is how millions of Obama voters and other liberals and even progressives decided “lets give this Trump guy a shot” despite him having served a term already that was terrible.