There’s a massive difference between being proud of being actively racist (MAGA), defiantly believing it’s not possible to be racist in 2026 because MLK ended racism (garden variety Republicans), forgetting about certain invasions and genocides based on (social) media coverage (which is based on expected viewership for ad revenue, which is based on skin color) (garden variety Democrats), and someone who I would describe as generally “not racist,” i.e. you, I assume if for no other reason than expedience of this discussion.
Pretending all three of the other groups are identical is not productive, intellectually dishonest, and makes fighting or educating them harder.
I believe they meant establishment politicians, not necessarily voters, which I agree with. If you support the same invasions, regime changes, racial profiling and prison slavery, etc, I don’t think you get to claim moral superiority for being smarter in how you conduct yourself.
Your country was built by genociding multiple indigenous peoples and enslaving black people and treating them like property, to this day it’s still very oppressive to both of these demographics, in addition to many other groups deemed undesirable by both liberals and fascists in power.
You two are saying Bernie Sanders, famously pictured getting arrested for marching with MLK, is as racist as people like Strom Thurmond, who filibustered the Civil Rights Act, Tim Scott who said welfare is worse for black people than slavery, or Vivek Ramaswamy who said white supremacy doesn’t exist?
Being okay with genocide anywhere makes you a massive racist yeah, Bernie might perform radical politics but he’s still a Zionist who betrayed his voters for the last couple of years on his refusal to speak for Palestinians and for decades by arming Israel.
You’re thinking of the world in naive binary Good vs. Evil, handing elections over to the people who, instead of doing a shitty job of fighting genocide (Dem.), would enthusiastically perpetuate it (Rep.).
Not to mention that isn’t even the discussion we’re having. You missed (or pretended to miss) the part where we’re talking about comparison.
Which is hotter, tea that is 55C or 60C? If your answer is “They are both hot,” you are being obtuse and I hope you at least realize that, even if you can’t stop yourself.
handing elections over to the people who, instead of doing a shitty job of fighting genocide (Dem.), would enthusiastically perpetuate it (Rep.).
Jesus Christ, were we even living in the same universe during the last 3 years? Joe Biden was unquestionably more enthusiastic about supporting genocide than Donald Trump ever was.
No way.
There’s a massive difference between being proud of being actively racist (MAGA), defiantly believing it’s not possible to be racist in 2026 because MLK ended racism (garden variety Republicans), forgetting about certain invasions and genocides based on (social) media coverage (which is based on expected viewership for ad revenue, which is based on skin color) (garden variety Democrats), and someone who I would describe as generally “not racist,” i.e. you, I assume if for no other reason than expedience of this discussion.
Pretending all three of the other groups are identical is not productive, intellectually dishonest, and makes fighting or educating them harder.
I believe they meant establishment politicians, not necessarily voters, which I agree with. If you support the same invasions, regime changes, racial profiling and prison slavery, etc, I don’t think you get to claim moral superiority for being smarter in how you conduct yourself.
Your country was built by genociding multiple indigenous peoples and enslaving black people and treating them like property, to this day it’s still very oppressive to both of these demographics, in addition to many other groups deemed undesirable by both liberals and fascists in power.
I still don’t buy it.
You two are saying Bernie Sanders, famously pictured getting arrested for marching with MLK, is as racist as people like Strom Thurmond, who filibustered the Civil Rights Act, Tim Scott who said welfare is worse for black people than slavery, or Vivek Ramaswamy who said white supremacy doesn’t exist?
Ain’t no way.
Being okay with genocide anywhere makes you a massive racist yeah, Bernie might perform radical politics but he’s still a Zionist who betrayed his voters for the last couple of years on his refusal to speak for Palestinians and for decades by arming Israel.
You’re thinking of the world in naive binary Good vs. Evil, handing elections over to the people who, instead of doing a shitty job of fighting genocide (Dem.), would enthusiastically perpetuate it (Rep.).
TL;DR:
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Not to mention that isn’t even the discussion we’re having. You missed (or pretended to miss) the part where we’re talking about comparison.
Which is hotter, tea that is 55C or 60C? If your answer is “They are both hot,” you are being obtuse and I hope you at least realize that, even if you can’t stop yourself.
Jesus Christ, were we even living in the same universe during the last 3 years? Joe Biden was unquestionably more enthusiastic about supporting genocide than Donald Trump ever was.