• yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    18 hours ago

    if there’s no random element to human cognition

    I didn’t say there’s no randomness in human cognition. I said that the originality of human ideas is not a matter of randomized thinking.

    Randomness is everywhere. But it’s not the “randomness” of an artist’s thought process that accounts for the originality of their creative output (and is detrimental to it).

    For LLMs, the opposite is true.

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        14 hours ago

        Consider the following question: “why did you write something sad?”

        • for an LLM, the answer is that a mathematical formula came up heads.
        • for a person, the answer is “I was sad.”

        Maybe the sadness is random. (That’s depression for you.) But it doesn’t change the fact that the subjective nature of my sadness fuels my creative decisions. It is why characters in my novel do so and so, and why I describe their feelings in a way that is original and yet eerily familiar — creatively.

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        14 hours ago

        I’m writing back in good faith, btw. Cool conversation.

        randomness is a central part of a human coming up with an idea.

        So, here’s how I understanding this claim.

        1. As an endorsement of the Copenhagen Interpretation about the ubiquity of randomness at the quantum level.
        2. As a rejection of subjectivity (à la eliminative materialism), which reduces thoughts, emotions, and experience to facts about neural activation vectors.

        (1) means randomness is background noise cancelled out at scale. We can still ask why some people are more creative than others, (or why some planets are redshifted compared to others) and presumably we have more to say than “luck,” since the statistical chances that Shakespeare wrote his plays at random is 0.

        Interpretation (2) suggests that creativity doesn’t exist and this whole conversation is senseless.