This logic will elect Republicans again and they will make the situation worse. There is no option where this stops unless we keep voting in progressives like we did in New York and New Jersey.
If it didn’t matter AIPAC wouldn’t be pouring money into candidates, an example like think of is the 9th district of Illinois where Kat Abughazaleh discovered that one of the PACS sponsoring their opponents was a shell for AIPAC
No, what you implied is that people should vote for Democrats no matter what and just hope they happen to be progressive. You said the logic of voting third party led to the current administration, completely ignoring everything the democrats did to sabotage themselves and intentionally avoid providing a progressive candidate.
This logic will elect Republicans again and they will make the situation worse. There is no option where this stops unless we keep voting in progressives like we did in New York and New Jersey.
This part where I say
unless we keep voting in progressives
On a side note, why do you have to be so mean about it. I’m a human being.
Democrats in safe seats capitulate and deserve all the criticism they get but not all Democrats want the stairs quo. Minnesota just passed a wealth tax that they have been using to find better public education and free school lunches. New York Mayor Mamdani has been doing amazing things and New Jersey just elected a progressive.
Positive change is possible we just need more progressives.
Sorry, in a conversation about mass incineration of civilians as part of a mass genocide, you’re talking about school lunches? Could you, for one single second, just pretend you think Palestinians are human.
People like you focus on the 1-2 progressive people who get elected on suckering people like you who put them on a pedestal while you ignore the other several 100 democrats who are fine with genocide and act like this is progress.
so why advocate voting for progressive democrats when moderate democrats will not allow any progressive members to control the democrat party?
you’re just going to end up w a bernie, aoc, omar, etc. situation where they’re not given enough control to change anything the democratic party’s priorities; but trotted out like show ponys to convince progressives to vote for the democrats anyways.
This logic will elect Republicans again and they will make the situation worse. There is no option where this stops unless we keep voting in progressives like we did in New York and New Jersey.
If it didn’t matter AIPAC wouldn’t be pouring money into candidates, an example like think of is the 9th district of Illinois where Kat Abughazaleh discovered that one of the PACS sponsoring their opponents was a shell for AIPAC
All I hear is ‘most important election of our lifetime.’
Voting for the people that’s helped enable our current situation is never the solution.
Voting for conservatives (and institution Democrats) caused the current situation.
Yeah no shit, that’s why people don’t want to vote for institutional Democrats.
Yeah… That’s what I said, vote for progressives
No, what you implied is that people should vote for Democrats no matter what and just hope they happen to be progressive. You said the logic of voting third party led to the current administration, completely ignoring everything the democrats did to sabotage themselves and intentionally avoid providing a progressive candidate.
Where exactly did I imply that? I brought up AIPAC sponsoring particular candidates and pitched a progressive.
Yeah it was the other part of that comment that you conveniently didn’t quote… the whole fucking first half…
This part where I say
On a side note, why do you have to be so mean about it. I’m a human being.
They are all conservative right wing
Which is why the wing of the party that capitulates to republicans keeps doing it.
Democrats in safe seats capitulate and deserve all the criticism they get but not all Democrats want the stairs quo. Minnesota just passed a wealth tax that they have been using to find better public education and free school lunches. New York Mayor Mamdani has been doing amazing things and New Jersey just elected a progressive.
Positive change is possible we just need more progressives.
Sorry, in a conversation about mass incineration of civilians as part of a mass genocide, you’re talking about school lunches? Could you, for one single second, just pretend you think Palestinians are human.
People like you focus on the 1-2 progressive people who get elected on suckering people like you who put them on a pedestal while you ignore the other several 100 democrats who are fine with genocide and act like this is progress.
Which is why I referred specifically to a wing of the democratic party and not the whole thing.
the problem is that they’re not in control of the democratic party; the capitulators are.
Agree entirely.
which means that they will not give progressives control of the party.
Also agree. If progressives are to have a party, centrists must be replaced with progressives.
so why advocate voting for progressive democrats when moderate democrats will not allow any progressive members to control the democrat party?
you’re just going to end up w a bernie, aoc, omar, etc. situation where they’re not given enough control to change anything the democratic party’s priorities; but trotted out like show ponys to convince progressives to vote for the democrats anyways.
Ah, I misunderstood. My apologies, it sounds like we agree then.