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There really aren’t. No car has gotten anywhere close to the level of tech in Tesla. But sure, let’s ignore that and spend more on shittier car because FUCK YOU. no nice things for you while there are hungry kids in Africa!
Yes the pinnacle of tech where you can’t get out of car is on fire. And no removing speaker grills to find a latch is not an acceptable solution when your panicking.
Surely if that was such a problem and wide spread, it wouldn’t be allowed nor the best selling car worldwide? But hey, I’m sure your Chinese car does a lot better! And isn’t causing an actual ban to happen…
There were numerous government investigations into various Tesla issues, but he DOGEd them right out of existence, so a cringy asslicking PedoCon like you can say “If they were so bad, why doesn’t the government stop them?”
Thanks for telling us you don’t give a damn about the children who burned alive in battery fires because they couldn’t get out of their parent’s tesla. Gruesome way to go that nobody deserves, especially not children. But I guess we can’t expect you to have empathy…
Musk has personally set those cars ablaze. Also no other car ever has had anyone else die in them. Right?
Funny, seen a video of porche crashing and locking 3 kids in back but they managed to break window to get them out while car was ablaze. But that never makes the news now, does it?
Or how about Volvo! Oh we love praising them! But when news was making rounds of their battery packs setting themselves off? “100s of EVs under recall!”
Because when it happens to other cars, there’s a recall and the problem gets fixed. When it happens to tesla, musk bribes a regulatory body or breaks into the government and defunds an entire institution so that he can get away with it.
Musk has personally set those cars ablaze
He’s not a nazi because his cars are deathtraps. He’s a nazi, and his cars happen to be death traps.
At least I have my own opinion without all these morons downvoting like it matters.
Not a single person has responded with a car yet. Wild how brain washed people got and I’m not going to buy another Tesla either, but if we can’t be honest about every other car being behind and doing fuck all to catch up? Then what’s the point. The level of hate and lack of reasoning is at least amusing. Must be Americans that are this level of stupid? Most of the comments came outside of European active hours.
No car has gotten anywhere close to the level of tech in Tesla.
Not really, and you have to consider a lot of ‘tech’ is useless crap nobody cares about like door handles that recede into the vehicle.
People literally just want an electric motor instead of an ICE. Dumb shit like touchscreens and tracking exist because companies charge more for each “feature” than it actually costs to implement.
There’s no alternative to sentry and keyless entry. Also no fleet control for cheap charging.
Maybe Rivian or lucid does, but they’re not in Europe. And have their own issues.
If your argument is “oh I don’t care so neither should you”, it’s a shitty argument.
Notice the comments below. Not a single one actually came with a real world example of a better car. But hey ho, to be expected. Unfortunately the elon hate while justified, brings a lot of shouting idiots out. Facts unfortunately care not about your feelings.
Efficiency - 4 miles per kWh minimum. Obviously that’s for saloon / hatchback. Something like model y size 3.5 is acceptable. And this is something I want to verify myself, very few cars achieved this in my test drive.
Key less entry - I’m too used to it. I don’t want to go back to having to carry keys. I leave the house with just my phone and watch, both can pay for things and open things. They’re locked behind my biometrics so I deem it safe.
Sentry + dashcam - again, this is minimum in today’s day and age to me. The car should always be recording. I’m not getting 3d party camera in a car I already paid +40k for.
Fleet control - this is very country dependent. I can charge my car using wall plug and get super cheap rate or use a dummy charger which isn’t connected to my electricity supplier and the car will let them know how much electricity the car used and it’ll adjust on my bill. In quantifiable terms, this is a saving of 1/4th of charging cost or one of payment of £900 for installing compatible charger per location.
Boot space - I have family, space is needed. The easiest thing for cars to achieve really.
Software - be it accurate navigation, route planning or the touch and feel of it. Tesla Navigation is one I have most experience in. But I have serious confidence in it. I have arrived at home with 0% charge several times because the car said it could. It also got us through insane storm where it also accurately calculated the extra battery drain due to elevation and wind. Do other cars do it? Do they do it well? I know one thing, using Google / apple car play circumvent the in car navigation and charge networks so the built in map is actually important. One day hopefully they start supporting cars and then it’ll be non issue.
People hate on screen only, but I genuinely have never had problems with it. My wife also has no issues opening glove box, adjusting AC or changing songs or putting gps…
Driver safety - this is fairly high on the list of things which will male me hate the car. When you watch a car review. Pay attention to when they say “it’s super easy to turn off driver attention system!” THAT is a red flag. A car shouldn’t have such abysmal safety measures they’re annoying and you need to turn them off each drive because they self turn on. MG has the most annoying one and the dealer HAS LITERALLY TURN THEM OFF IN FRONT OF ME before letting me drive the car. I can’t express how bad some of these are.
Auto steer and cruise control - pretty much standard now days. I don’t need FSD, just simple keep this speed and don’t crash and on motorway, keep in the lane for me. Tesla autopilot is very good but others have come a long way over the 8 years.
Look - I want a sporty looking car and interior I want it to be leather like feel, no fabric, no tacky “recycled” look. I’m paying serious money and I want some comfort. It’s a low bar and pretty much any car I’ve test driven in the price range has been good enough comfort wise. I personally like minimalistic, but I’m not opposed to say the Taycan level.
It’s fucking hilarious that you have to point out that “my wife doesn’t have problems opening the glovebox” as if that’s a problem in any other conventional car. Pull lever. Open glovebox. No sub-menu required. No tech bro wanking on the screen.
Because it’s one of the first thing that’s said about it, like its some big deal. Fuck it, I like having one storage locked behind that can’t be easily opened by someone breaking in or whatever.
Any Cadillac for Sentry Mode (it’s called Surround Vision Recorder, and unlike Tesla, it’s not constantly narcing on you, it’s locally stored). I’m sure others have equivalents, that’s just the one I know off the top of my head.
Any… car… for keyless entry. That’s literally more common than using a key in a new vehicle.
Okay but like … In my and the other user’s opinion there are better cars at the same or cheaper price point for what you get.
I mean I’m not going to write a whole article on it here but I don’t think it’s fair for you to act like Tesla has some magical monopoly on tech in their cars that other manufacturers are lacking. You could argue full self driving mode, maybe, but everything else exists in their competition too.
Besides even full self driving has its own problems.
Fuck self drive. There are individual things some will do better, but as a package? Tesla is unbeatable. I’ll paste what I’ve written earlier s to what makes Tesla the best:
Efficiency - 4 miles per kWh minimum. Obviously that’s for saloon / hatchback. Something like model y size 3.5 is acceptable. And this is something I want to verify myself, very few cars achieved this in my test drive.
Key less entry - I’m too used to it. I don’t want to go back to having to carry keys. I leave the house with just my phone and watch, both can pay for things and open things. They’re locked behind my biometrics so I deem it safe.
Sentry + dashcam - again, this is minimum in today’s day and age to me. The car should always be recording. I’m not getting 3d party camera in a car I already paid +40k for.
Fleet control - this is very country dependent. I can charge my car using wall plug and get super cheap rate or use a dummy charger which isn’t connected to my electricity supplier and the car will let them know how much electricity the car used and it’ll adjust on my bill. In quantifiable terms, this is a saving of 1/4th of charging cost or one of payment of £900 for installing compatible charger per location.
Boot space - I have family, space is needed. The easiest thing for cars to achieve really.
Software - be it accurate navigation, route planning or the touch and feel of it. Tesla Navigation is one I have most experience in. But I have serious confidence in it. I have arrived at home with 0% charge several times because the car said it could. It also got us through insane storm where it also accurately calculated the extra battery drain due to elevation and wind. Do other cars do it? Do they do it well? I know one thing, using Google / apple car play circumvent the in car navigation and charge networks so the built in map is actually important. One day hopefully they start supporting cars and then it’ll be non issue.
People hate on screen only, but I genuinely have never had problems with it. My wife also has no issues opening glove box, adjusting AC or changing songs or putting gps…
Driver safety - this is fairly high on the list of things which will male me hate the car. When you watch a car review. Pay attention to when they say “it’s super easy to turn off driver attention system!” THAT is a red flag. A car shouldn’t have such abysmal safety measures they’re annoying and you need to turn them off each drive because they self turn on. MG has the most annoying one and the dealer HAS LITERALLY TURN THEM OFF IN FRONT OF ME before letting me drive the car. I can’t express how bad some of these are.
Auto steer and cruise control - pretty much standard now days. I don’t need FSD, just simple keep this speed and don’t crash and on motorway, keep in the lane for me. Tesla autopilot is very good but others have come a long way over the 8 years.
Look - I want a sporty looking car and interior I want it to be leather like feel, no fabric, no tacky “recycled” look. I’m paying serious money and I want some comfort. It’s a low bar and pretty much any car I’ve test driven in the price range has been good enough comfort wise. I personally like minimalistic, but I’m not opposed to say the Taycan level.
This has been fun to type out. I hope it makes sense. There were many cars which almost made it. I’m waiting for Xpeng test drive which promises all these things. So we shall see. Our model 3 has 91k on it. It’s still a great car and if we need to spend another 3 years with it waiting for something new? That’s fine.
Agree with all that. Have a T3 with same kind of mileage. Enjoy the car big time. Still I won’t buy a Tesla again because of musk - regardless of how many good offers they keep sending me.
“There are better cars”
There really aren’t. No car has gotten anywhere close to the level of tech in Tesla. But sure, let’s ignore that and spend more on shittier car because FUCK YOU. no nice things for you while there are hungry kids in Africa!
Buy what you want, he’s set for life regardless.
My 2008 Mazda is a better car. I don’t need or want all that stupid tech in my car because I know how to drive and I pay attention to the road.
Tesla EV technology hasn’t changed in 10 years, and those cars are the bottom of the list for reliability.
10 years of no change and still ahead you say???
Where do you get the idea of “ahead”? They are still on 400V architecture, they are unrelaible, and lead with the most crashes of any car company, two years in a row. Is that what you mean by ahead?
Yes the pinnacle of tech where you can’t get out of car is on fire. And no removing speaker grills to find a latch is not an acceptable solution when your panicking.
Surely if that was such a problem and wide spread, it wouldn’t be allowed nor the best selling car worldwide? But hey, I’m sure your Chinese car does a lot better! And isn’t causing an actual ban to happen…
Banned in China, and soon in EU.
There were numerous government investigations into various Tesla issues, but he DOGEd them right out of existence, so a cringy asslicking PedoCon like you can say “If they were so bad, why doesn’t the government stop them?”
The comment didn’t deserve anything past this mockery.
If one copies and pastes same tired comments, what else do they expect?
Oh, and BTW, it isn’t the most popular car worldwide. China’s EVs outsell Tesla, and they are being welcomed by more and more countries.
Tesla will be bankrupt in 2 years.
Thanks for telling us you don’t give a damn about the children who burned alive in battery fires because they couldn’t get out of their parent’s tesla. Gruesome way to go that nobody deserves, especially not children. But I guess we can’t expect you to have empathy…
Musk has personally set those cars ablaze. Also no other car ever has had anyone else die in them. Right?
Funny, seen a video of porche crashing and locking 3 kids in back but they managed to break window to get them out while car was ablaze. But that never makes the news now, does it?
Or how about Volvo! Oh we love praising them! But when news was making rounds of their battery packs setting themselves off? “100s of EVs under recall!”
It only makes news when it’s tesla, doesn’t it?
Because when it happens to other cars, there’s a recall and the problem gets fixed. When it happens to tesla, musk bribes a regulatory body or breaks into the government and defunds an entire institution so that he can get away with it.
He’s not a nazi because his cars are deathtraps. He’s a nazi, and his cars happen to be death traps.
He does that globally?! That’s crazy man!
How much is musk paying you? You could probably negotiate a better deal.
At least I have my own opinion without all these morons downvoting like it matters.
Not a single person has responded with a car yet. Wild how brain washed people got and I’m not going to buy another Tesla either, but if we can’t be honest about every other car being behind and doing fuck all to catch up? Then what’s the point. The level of hate and lack of reasoning is at least amusing. Must be Americans that are this level of stupid? Most of the comments came outside of European active hours.
Their cars suck. They’re poor quality and unsafe.
Can you find some actual point except same old parroted one? “Poor quality”, the fuck does that even mean?
It means the cars are shit.
Lol
https://www.autoblog.com/electric/report-at-least-15-fatalities-linked-to-tesla-doors-failing-to-open-in-fires
Not really, and you have to consider a lot of ‘tech’ is useless crap nobody cares about like door handles that recede into the vehicle.
People literally just want an electric motor instead of an ICE. Dumb shit like touchscreens and tracking exist because companies charge more for each “feature” than it actually costs to implement.
There’s no alternative to sentry and keyless entry. Also no fleet control for cheap charging.
Maybe Rivian or lucid does, but they’re not in Europe. And have their own issues.
If your argument is “oh I don’t care so neither should you”, it’s a shitty argument.
Notice the comments below. Not a single one actually came with a real world example of a better car. But hey ho, to be expected. Unfortunately the elon hate while justified, brings a lot of shouting idiots out. Facts unfortunately care not about your feelings.
Because Teslas are so unreliable, it’s easier to just the list the better cars.
Anyway, you will learn the hard way when you can’t fix that turd, and you can’t trade it in for a decent car, which is why they devalue an average of 69% in 5 years. Get a Cybertruck! People will think you are cool!
Fucking Chevy makes a better car.
I drive a Chevy, can confirm, the door latches consistently work even when the power goes out (which is frequent LOL)
Holy shit that’s a motherfucker of a burn these days. Few years back Chevy truck roofs were cracking open, lol
Well, it’s not a good car but the panels line up and it has buttons for wipers, lights, and shit like they. It does only get 250mi range.
Does it do any of this?
Efficiency - 4 miles per kWh minimum. Obviously that’s for saloon / hatchback. Something like model y size 3.5 is acceptable. And this is something I want to verify myself, very few cars achieved this in my test drive.
Key less entry - I’m too used to it. I don’t want to go back to having to carry keys. I leave the house with just my phone and watch, both can pay for things and open things. They’re locked behind my biometrics so I deem it safe.
Sentry + dashcam - again, this is minimum in today’s day and age to me. The car should always be recording. I’m not getting 3d party camera in a car I already paid +40k for.
Fleet control - this is very country dependent. I can charge my car using wall plug and get super cheap rate or use a dummy charger which isn’t connected to my electricity supplier and the car will let them know how much electricity the car used and it’ll adjust on my bill. In quantifiable terms, this is a saving of 1/4th of charging cost or one of payment of £900 for installing compatible charger per location.
Boot space - I have family, space is needed. The easiest thing for cars to achieve really.
Software - be it accurate navigation, route planning or the touch and feel of it. Tesla Navigation is one I have most experience in. But I have serious confidence in it. I have arrived at home with 0% charge several times because the car said it could. It also got us through insane storm where it also accurately calculated the extra battery drain due to elevation and wind. Do other cars do it? Do they do it well? I know one thing, using Google / apple car play circumvent the in car navigation and charge networks so the built in map is actually important. One day hopefully they start supporting cars and then it’ll be non issue.
People hate on screen only, but I genuinely have never had problems with it. My wife also has no issues opening glove box, adjusting AC or changing songs or putting gps…
Driver safety - this is fairly high on the list of things which will male me hate the car. When you watch a car review. Pay attention to when they say “it’s super easy to turn off driver attention system!” THAT is a red flag. A car shouldn’t have such abysmal safety measures they’re annoying and you need to turn them off each drive because they self turn on. MG has the most annoying one and the dealer HAS LITERALLY TURN THEM OFF IN FRONT OF ME before letting me drive the car. I can’t express how bad some of these are.
Auto steer and cruise control - pretty much standard now days. I don’t need FSD, just simple keep this speed and don’t crash and on motorway, keep in the lane for me. Tesla autopilot is very good but others have come a long way over the 8 years.
Look - I want a sporty looking car and interior I want it to be leather like feel, no fabric, no tacky “recycled” look. I’m paying serious money and I want some comfort. It’s a low bar and pretty much any car I’ve test driven in the price range has been good enough comfort wise. I personally like minimalistic, but I’m not opposed to say the Taycan level.
It’s fucking hilarious that you have to point out that “my wife doesn’t have problems opening the glovebox” as if that’s a problem in any other conventional car. Pull lever. Open glovebox. No sub-menu required. No tech bro wanking on the screen.
Because it’s one of the first thing that’s said about it, like its some big deal. Fuck it, I like having one storage locked behind that can’t be easily opened by someone breaking in or whatever.
But hey, carry on hating!
Yes, other cars have all those features.
Name one.
Any Cadillac for Sentry Mode (it’s called Surround Vision Recorder, and unlike Tesla, it’s not constantly narcing on you, it’s locally stored). I’m sure others have equivalents, that’s just the one I know off the top of my head.
Any… car… for keyless entry. That’s literally more common than using a key in a new vehicle.
So from the list you named one. Lovely.and its not even available to be viewed remotely?
And you damn well know keyless doesn’t mean a fob.
So we’re clear then, Tesla is unmatched. You failed to name a single fucking car. So did everyone else.
Why would I? You haven’t listened to the answers 10 other people have given to your questions.
My Lemmy must be blocking them as I haven’t spotted a single car. Someone name dropped “Chevy”. Is that what you mean?
Go on, show me.
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I typed it all by myself, hence it reads so poorly, cunt. :)
Okay but like … In my and the other user’s opinion there are better cars at the same or cheaper price point for what you get.
I mean I’m not going to write a whole article on it here but I don’t think it’s fair for you to act like Tesla has some magical monopoly on tech in their cars that other manufacturers are lacking. You could argue full self driving mode, maybe, but everything else exists in their competition too.
Besides even full self driving has its own problems.
Fuck self drive. There are individual things some will do better, but as a package? Tesla is unbeatable. I’ll paste what I’ve written earlier s to what makes Tesla the best:
Efficiency - 4 miles per kWh minimum. Obviously that’s for saloon / hatchback. Something like model y size 3.5 is acceptable. And this is something I want to verify myself, very few cars achieved this in my test drive.
Key less entry - I’m too used to it. I don’t want to go back to having to carry keys. I leave the house with just my phone and watch, both can pay for things and open things. They’re locked behind my biometrics so I deem it safe.
Sentry + dashcam - again, this is minimum in today’s day and age to me. The car should always be recording. I’m not getting 3d party camera in a car I already paid +40k for.
Fleet control - this is very country dependent. I can charge my car using wall plug and get super cheap rate or use a dummy charger which isn’t connected to my electricity supplier and the car will let them know how much electricity the car used and it’ll adjust on my bill. In quantifiable terms, this is a saving of 1/4th of charging cost or one of payment of £900 for installing compatible charger per location.
Boot space - I have family, space is needed. The easiest thing for cars to achieve really.
Software - be it accurate navigation, route planning or the touch and feel of it. Tesla Navigation is one I have most experience in. But I have serious confidence in it. I have arrived at home with 0% charge several times because the car said it could. It also got us through insane storm where it also accurately calculated the extra battery drain due to elevation and wind. Do other cars do it? Do they do it well? I know one thing, using Google / apple car play circumvent the in car navigation and charge networks so the built in map is actually important. One day hopefully they start supporting cars and then it’ll be non issue.
People hate on screen only, but I genuinely have never had problems with it. My wife also has no issues opening glove box, adjusting AC or changing songs or putting gps…
Driver safety - this is fairly high on the list of things which will male me hate the car. When you watch a car review. Pay attention to when they say “it’s super easy to turn off driver attention system!” THAT is a red flag. A car shouldn’t have such abysmal safety measures they’re annoying and you need to turn them off each drive because they self turn on. MG has the most annoying one and the dealer HAS LITERALLY TURN THEM OFF IN FRONT OF ME before letting me drive the car. I can’t express how bad some of these are.
Auto steer and cruise control - pretty much standard now days. I don’t need FSD, just simple keep this speed and don’t crash and on motorway, keep in the lane for me. Tesla autopilot is very good but others have come a long way over the 8 years.
Look - I want a sporty looking car and interior I want it to be leather like feel, no fabric, no tacky “recycled” look. I’m paying serious money and I want some comfort. It’s a low bar and pretty much any car I’ve test driven in the price range has been good enough comfort wise. I personally like minimalistic, but I’m not opposed to say the Taycan level.
This has been fun to type out. I hope it makes sense. There were many cars which almost made it. I’m waiting for Xpeng test drive which promises all these things. So we shall see. Our model 3 has 91k on it. It’s still a great car and if we need to spend another 3 years with it waiting for something new? That’s fine.
Agree with all that. Have a T3 with same kind of mileage. Enjoy the car big time. Still I won’t buy a Tesla again because of musk - regardless of how many good offers they keep sending me.
Other cars can drive themselves without docents in or behind the car, but Tesla can’t. What are you smoking?