• Rentlar@lemmy.ca
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    7 days ago

    I agree with the sentiment, but I will clarify, people know the names of two of the 9 people not solely because of their skin colour…

    But those two were violently murdered on camera in front of a crowd. No footage of the other 7 incidents is publicly available so far from what I’ve checked. Other than Keith Porter, the rest were in ICE custody at the time of murder, so no cameras present to immediately disprove the administration’s bold-faced lies.

    See this article for info on 8 of the 9. Latest on the 31 Dec 2025 murder of Keith Porter.

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      7 days ago

      Yeah, adding race is unnecessary. Stop it with the racial division and let’s all team up against the facists.

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        I agree and this whole “you only care because they’re white” sentiment is doing more harm than good.

        People really need to understand human impulses and why people turn away from better choices and better reasoning. The left broadly has made this mistake so many times about so many issues that we’ve basically lost all our ground, and we’re still out here doing the finger-wagging bullshit instead of trying to capture power and influence people.

        I sometimes think this movement is getting what it deserves just for being stupid, but then realize the message isn’t sinking in at all so it’s just depressing.

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      This is by the design of our system. It’s significantly easier to arrest and detain minorities in minority neighborhoods without any evidence of the crimes of ICE. The fact that we have 7 actual cases we are aware of for these crimes by ICE should really raise a red flag that there are many many more that we are not even aware of. And this just murders we are talking about. We will find out in the coming years of rape, abuse, and other crimes these Nazis have done.

      Pretti and Good are the examples that should upset us not just for the injustice done to them. But also be seen as a question to all; what do they do when the cameras aren’t on them? What do they do when the people filming them don’t feel the shield of white privilege? We don’t get to see those videos.

      Using race as a reason to be a radlib and say ‘look at you caring now that white people die’ is dumb as fuck. Understanding how race plays a role in the ability for ICE to get away with their crimes is still of vital importancs though.

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        In full agreement. The amount of people getting intruded, kidnapped, roughhoused is so large, that it seems most Minneapolis residents have two degrees separation or less with someone who had their rights and personal safety violated by ICE. Most of these incidents aren’t on camera.

        Yes, I acknowledge that race is one of the largest factors ICE had Lunas Campos et. al in custody to begin with. However, I’m pushing back on the totally unnecessary holier-than-thou smugness and shoe-horning of identity politics when calling for respect for all of ICE’s murder victims. It takes away from the solidarity needed to put the focus on investigating and stopping ICE’s crime spree.

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      I do think the racial component is way too important to not emphasize it. This is happening nation-wide and, in the USA, 61% of the people is considered white, black people amount for 12% and native, mixed and other Hispanics, which are probably Latinos, are ~10% of the population, yet, these account for ~50% of the murders.

      Pretti and Goodman were killed because they opposed to ICE, not because they were brown people, but most were murdered in custody and they were not white.