cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/42475417

There it is folks.

Remember that name: Chabad-Lubavitch

declassified FBI memo from the Epstein files, released on Friday, includes incendiary allegations about US President Donald Trump.

The memo says that Trump was “compromised by Israel”, that convicted paedophile Jeffrey Epsteinworked with Israeli intelligence, and that a Jewish religious group calling itself Chabad-Lubavitch sought to hijack his first term in office.

The memo, written in 2020, formed part of an FBI investigation into domestic or foreign influence over the US electoral process. It draws on information from a confidential human source (CHS) and appears among a vast trove of Epstein-related files released by the US Justice Department.

“CHS advised Chabad is doing everything they can to co-opt the Trump presidency,” the memo states regarding his first term.

Chabad-Lubavitch, a religious Jewish sect founded in Russia, has grown to an estimated 90,000 members. Its messianic, ultra-Orthodox ideology has repeatedly been linked to hardline settler colonial politics in Palestine.

    • cbmac@lemmings.world
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      Europeens jews went to a populated area and forced a state on the local people by ethenic cleansing and genocide. In 67 they used the same bullshit rhetoric russia used to occupy Ukraine

      after the formation of a large army in the wake of the establishment of the state, we will abolish partition and expand to the whole of Palestine - ben gurion

      The Egyptian Army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him.” - Menachem Begin

      Herzl’s Diary, 12 June 1895

      The property owners will come over to our side. According to my conception, the majority of the local population will have to be transferred elsewhere.

      We shall try to spirit the penniless population across the border by procuring employment for it in the transit countries, while denying it any employment in our own country. - Herzl’s Diary, 12 June 1895

      Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly - Herzl’s Diary, 12 June 1895

      According to Israeli historian Benny Morris, Zionism was inherently expansionist and always had the goal of turning the entirety of Palestine into a Jewish state. In addition, Morris describes the Zionists as intent on politically and physically dispossessing the Arabs.

      The World Zionist Organization established the Jewish National Fund (JNF) in 1901, with the stated goal “to redeem the land of Palestine as the inalienable possession of the Jewish people.” The notion of land “redemption” entailed that the land could not be sold and could not be leased to a non-Jew nor should the land be worked by Arabs.

      The Nazis were doing mass shooting, the IDF did mass shooting and mass bombing. Both the Nazis and the idf are starving people. The Nazis used gas chambers, the idf is shooting at people seeking aids and toeture and rape palestinians in their prisons

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      I accept that a Jew who wishes for a nation-state for Jews, based on civic nationalism, inclusive for people of different religions and ethnicities, and showing the due respect for the natives and their property and land rights, isn’t far right.

      But for the most part, Israelis are far-right now.

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        How can it be “for Jews” but also be inclusive of non-Jews? That’s the whole problem.

        Unless you mean for Jews in that it’s for everyone who wants to live there and participate in such a society. But that’s not what they typically mean when they say “for Jews”.

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          Wait would that mean everyone can be Jews? Is the criteria for this cutting off the skin on the tip of my dick? Kinda like a pledge?

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            lol I meant like for Jews only insofar as it’s for everyone, and it’s for Jews because they are a subset of everyone. But that’s a stretch so I see why you were confused.

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          Jews collectively decide to go to the same region, and in doing so give it a significant Jewish cultural character.

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            And I don’t have any problem with that. The issue is when they decide to enhance that distinctly Jewish character by expelling or killing everyone who is different from them. That’s called fascism.

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      Not literally nazis in the “claim the ww2 german nazi party as indicative of their personal identity” sense, but in the way that “Nazi” gets used in modern english as a synonym for “fascist”. And arguably that user has a point; trying to build a state based on a favored identity at the expense of another group who lives on that land, re-framing marginalization and conflict with that group as self defense, is one of the hallmarks of fascism. If it were just “national liberation”, then who would they be seeking liberation from? Israel isnt under foreign occupation or some kind of vassalage, the closest thing to that you could even argue for is that they have some dependence on the US for military support, and beyond that relationship not being at the level of the US controlling Israel, the US isnt who zionists are usually fighting against anyway. If this were still the era of the roman empire or something, that kind of line might make some sense, but under the current state of affairs, it does not.

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      Look up the Lehi terrorist organization, which was folded into the IDF. They literally tried to join WW2 on the side of the Nazis, but you know, Nazis.

      Anyway, their philosophical wing adopted, and started pushing, Nazi race science with the races switched around. This is where the major push of people claiming “god’s chosen people” to justify their evil comes from.

      Also, the second leader of Lehi was eventually elected to Prime Minister, and was even more of an evil bastard by that point. He also was Netanyahu’s political mentor.

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        Self proclaimed “God’s chosen people.” Has a ring to it. Kinda like the reason Lucifer fell from heaven.

    • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org
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      Nah fuck right off with that opinion, two and a half fucking years into the Gaza genocide, you fucking for real? Israel is just “Jews longing for national liberation”? Shut the fuck up Zionist Pissrael

      Pissrael

      Pissrael

      Pissrael

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              Zionism predates Labor Zionism. And fuck Labor Zionists and their so-called Zionist socialists too, and double-fuck Zionist “”“anarchists”“”. Next you’ll be arguing that I oughta like urinal cakes because I like cakes 😆

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                1. Chronology is irrelevant.
                2. That’s mostly just polemic invective
                3. That’s a bad analogy because they share only a word, cake, and no actual substance (unlike various forms of Zionism which do share substantive ideological currents)

                Yeah I got an award you 0 points here.