• azuth@sh.itjust.works
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    13 days ago

    Easily proven true by endless apologia for US military members. When Russians do it, the are orc, when Americans do it, they were poor and needed healthcare.

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      13 days ago

      It hadn’t occurred to me before your comment - they don’t want us to have Medicare For All because then the biggest and best benefit of going into military service would be available to every citizen. Or that’s surely one of the MANY horrible reasons they continue to fuck us on healthcare.

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        13 days ago

        The military pipeline shuts down when good pay, housing, healthcare, etc. are provided to the proletariat.

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      13 days ago

      My friend went into the military and, as he puts it, ‘swept sand in a sandstorm’ for most of his time there. His experience seemed to be mostly boredom. He wore a beard to hid his nega-chin and ended up working on AC units for the most part.

      Let’s see, last time I checked Russia was releasing violent criminals to fight in Ukraine. You go ahead and find me a modern comparison from the U.S., I’ll wait.

      Edit: violent criminals who rape new recruits, by the way — in the interest of clarity.

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        You can even try to claim some more weird ass non-existing morality points by pointing out that Hey, the US doesn’t even recruit soldiers all that much nowadays… they just hire private companies now… See? US military good, it’s mercenaries that are bad.
        Ya know… like Wagner Group. Oh no… guess they’re more alike than you think.

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          So your logic is that the U.S. is equally as bad as Russia because they hire mercenaries, so bums working on AC units back home share the same blame as hired guns and professional soldiers.

          What a ridiculous group of people.

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            12 days ago

            What a ridiculous group of people.

            I know, right? I equally despise the military industrial complex at large, as well as those who are just following orders/helping out in the background and their online simps.

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        13 days ago

        Let’s see, last time I checked Russia was releasing violent criminals to fight in Ukraine. You go ahead and find me a modern comparison from the U.S., I’ll wait.

        I don’t have to play your stupid games. The vast majority of Russian soldiers are/were not convicts but either people who voluntarily joined their country’s army to make a living like your friend did or civilians who were drafted/conscripted. Most of them also did not kill or rape anyone like your friend. They probably would say they swept snow in a snowstorm instead.

        Yet they still enable Russia’s attack on Ukraine. So did your friend with regards to USA’s attacks on Iraq, Afghanistan etc. Your friend is not better than them because he is your friend nor because he is American.

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          You mean my friend who was only ever in stationed in Texas?

          Yeah you sure are good at determining my ‘stupid games’, you really got me there buddy. At least I know what to tag you.

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            12 days ago

            Your friend is by your own logic then as innocent of the killing in that war is Putin is of the killing in Ukraine. He hasn’t shot anyone, just like your friend.

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              12 days ago

              There is simply no fucking way you’re trying to say a grunt has as much responsibility as the dictator. I simply cannot entertain this lmao

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                12 days ago

                Those are your words. If you think Putin is a murderer your friend is a murderer. Deal with it, friend of murderers.