Did not have a Henry VIII style split with the church on my bingo card, but let’s just get it over with. Can’t wait for US Catholics to get the option to openly follow their one true religion: Cheap, poorly managed, failing attempts at white American hegemony and hate.
One thing I really think the he should have done more was criticize the American version of Christianity. It’s divorced so much even from Protestantism that it should be called out. That one of the candidates to replace him is from the Philippines it will hopefully throw a wrench into the more racist aspects of it.
I don’t think a Catholic religious leader is really in much of a position to criticize Protestantism, do you? I mean I could see criticizing fundamentalism in general, but…
I don’t think the comment is suggesting they criticize Protestantism. I think they are suggesting that US Catholics faith no longer aligns with the Vatican and that it’s diverged to the point that in no longer even represents the idea of Christianity at large (Protestants) and more just some new thing (presumably where people pretend to read the Bible and just ignore all the commandments).
Ah, yeah that’s fair, I may have misunderstood. Although honestly cherry-picking the bible is neither new nor uniquely Protestant. I do wonder how uniquely American it is though, because there’s a very wide streak of it through American evangelicalism but I don’t hear too much about it from elsewhere in the world.
I thought he should. I should have specified the tradcath movement and by that I mean like if you go to Twitter or related platforms you get these people claiming to be catholic and stating that they are tradcaths, some idealized version of a catholic that believes in ‘traditional values’ and just general MRA, incel stuff that otherwise never ever made sense in catholicism. And then you have plenty of leaders in the States that repeatedly claim to be Christian or just outright make up stuff and pretend like their idealogy is completely approved by the Vatican (or they are just so ignorant they just assume all Christians follow the same ideaology). Paula White and JD Vance are a good examples of this.
It’s just that there’s a growing blurring in the States of Protestantism, Teleevangelism and Catholicism that I think the pope should have addressed.
Vatican 2 (updates such as being able to say Mass in a language that people can understand) pissed off a group of weird people, who have been quietly pretending that things the Pope says about not hating gay people aren’t official Church doctrine. It is surprising that they haven’t tried to set up their own counter Pope yet.
Lots of these American trad caths are people raised in that mega church vague non denominational Protestantism where rules don’t really matter. They get a little grossed out by the corporate slickness and callous capitalism (give give give, so we can improve our million dollar sound system), so they think they can keep doing what they’re doing - just with a little more class.
Oh, yeah that’s a different matter, the pope obviously has quite a lot of say about what Catholics should or shouldn’t be doing (for better or worse.) But the pope trying to criticize Protestant groups would just incite some very strong backlash.
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Did not have a Henry VIII style split with the church on my bingo card, but let’s just get it over with. Can’t wait for US Catholics to get the option to openly follow their one true religion: Cheap, poorly managed, failing attempts at white American hegemony and hate.
One thing I really think the he should have done more was criticize the American version of Christianity. It’s divorced so much even from Protestantism that it should be called out. That one of the candidates to replace him is from the Philippines it will hopefully throw a wrench into the more racist aspects of it.
I don’t think a Catholic religious leader is really in much of a position to criticize Protestantism, do you? I mean I could see criticizing fundamentalism in general, but…
I don’t think the comment is suggesting they criticize Protestantism. I think they are suggesting that US Catholics faith no longer aligns with the Vatican and that it’s diverged to the point that in no longer even represents the idea of Christianity at large (Protestants) and more just some new thing (presumably where people pretend to read the Bible and just ignore all the commandments).
Ah, yeah that’s fair, I may have misunderstood. Although honestly cherry-picking the bible is neither new nor uniquely Protestant. I do wonder how uniquely American it is though, because there’s a very wide streak of it through American evangelicalism but I don’t hear too much about it from elsewhere in the world.
I thought he should. I should have specified the tradcath movement and by that I mean like if you go to Twitter or related platforms you get these people claiming to be catholic and stating that they are tradcaths, some idealized version of a catholic that believes in ‘traditional values’ and just general MRA, incel stuff that otherwise never ever made sense in catholicism. And then you have plenty of leaders in the States that repeatedly claim to be Christian or just outright make up stuff and pretend like their idealogy is completely approved by the Vatican (or they are just so ignorant they just assume all Christians follow the same ideaology). Paula White and JD Vance are a good examples of this.
It’s just that there’s a growing blurring in the States of Protestantism, Teleevangelism and Catholicism that I think the pope should have addressed.
Vatican 2 (updates such as being able to say Mass in a language that people can understand) pissed off a group of weird people, who have been quietly pretending that things the Pope says about not hating gay people aren’t official Church doctrine. It is surprising that they haven’t tried to set up their own counter Pope yet.
Lots of these American trad caths are people raised in that mega church vague non denominational Protestantism where rules don’t really matter. They get a little grossed out by the corporate slickness and callous capitalism (give give give, so we can improve our million dollar sound system), so they think they can keep doing what they’re doing - just with a little more class.
Oh, yeah that’s a different matter, the pope obviously has quite a lot of say about what Catholics should or shouldn’t be doing (for better or worse.) But the pope trying to criticize Protestant groups would just incite some very strong backlash.
Yea, I’m not gonna start criticizing him because I’ll just never stop, but I’ll at least agree with your point.
For what it’s worth, what the pope actually says/does has started mattering very little anyways. They no longer even pretend to care.
Can we start gambling on who the American Pope is going to be? My money is on Andrew Tate.
Why don’t they go the way of England and declare him god emperor Trump?
breaking news: trump has just anointed hulk hogan as the next pope
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