cross-posted from: https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/49224731

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China’s ambassador to Australia has urged Canberra to prepare for dealing with a “reunified China”, declaring Chinese people “will not forgive” countries that seek to obstruct Beijing’s push to bring Taiwan under its control.

In remarks that frame re­unification as inevitable and resistance as unforgivable, Xiao Qian likened Taiwan’s status to that of Tasmania and warned that any attempt of “compromising or openly distorting” Beijing’s one-China principle would constitute a retreat from prior commitments and erode trust.

He said Australia could not keep reaping the benefits of trade with China while seeking to block reunification, signalling economic consequences for ­resisting Beijing’s aims.

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Mr Xiao also lashed a recent [Australian] Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade statement that described China’s military and coast guard drills around Taiwan as “deeply concerning, destabilising and risk inflaming regional tensions”, and reiterated that Canberra opposed any unilateral attempt to change the status quo.

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He also cautioned governments, including Australia’s, against pursuing dialogue on Taiwan unless they were committed to reunification.

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    • freagle@lemmy.ml
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      9 days ago

      In this context, where the Australia is literally a imperial colony of the largest empire in the history of the world that continues to openly oppress the indigenous people of an entire continent, your comment is hilarious.

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        Why would it be hilarious? In this case, China is the one threatening others to accept their imperialist ambitions. His comment was on point. Yours, on the other hand, reeks of bootlicking.

        • freagle@lemmy.ml
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          Because Australia is saying this:

          'ey Bruce! After you’re done ova there with your daily oppression of your imperial subjects of centuries, I need ya ta come over here and help me build a military alliance that we can threaten Choina wit just in case they ever try to integrate the Choinese people on the island province of Taiwan with the Choinese people on the main land.

          And China is saying this:

          Hey Chinese people who live on the island province of Taiwan. Now that you’re 30 years into your experiment where you’re no longer run by a Chinese military dictatorship that killed everyone who disagree with them for 40 years, we’re going to continue, as we have for 50 years, pursue peaceful unification of our national defense systems and ensure y’all can keep running your Western style democratic system because honestly we don’t care how you govern yourselves as long as you don’t let violent imperialists like Australia and the US to build military power on the island.

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            Funny how you frame a military defence alliance as a threat to China, but decided to frame the intended invasion of Taiwan as a “peaceful unification”.

            Also, remind me again what happened to their promise to allow Hong Kong to govern themselves without China interfering again? Yeah, nobody believes them on that front.

            Anybody who lives around the South China Sea knows how untrustworthy China is when it comes to their imperialist ambition.

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              Hong Kong is still governing themselves. Their governmental system is still intact. It was not dismantled. You clearly just saw some violent protests and assumed you knew what was going on.

              China’s one country two system approach is very explicit about one country meaning one military and one national security apparatus. The protests were about a national security law coming into effect that would give the CPC the legal framework to remove politicians that collaborated with Britain, the US, or other enemies of China.

              And even though the student protestors fire bombed the police, the police were extremely restrained on the face of protestors literally burning people alive. The protests raged for weeks on end and the violence we saw on the news was almost entirely showing students throwing molotovs while the police retreated slowly. A far different sort of conflict than what we see in the US or England.

              So, yes, the world absolutely believes China’s One Country Two Systems because it’s been doing it for literally centuries and because even in Hong Kong, where there was a violent student protest, the Hong Kong system of government is still operating in the same form it was operating when the British installed it.

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                It’s not governing themselves if the CPC decides who they collaborate with. And your argument about police bring restrained is similar to how Israel supporters try to gaslight everyone how Israel is acting restrained against terrorists.

                It’s an obviously overused tactic now to paint the students as the bad actor when they have every right to decide how their country is supposed to be run, given that they are the future of their country. Anytime a government cracks down on student protest, it’s never the government that is in the right.

                So no, the world, especially China’s neighbours, doesn’t believe that China will let Taiwan to govern themselves. They’d only allow a puppet government to be in power, like they’re doing in Hong Kong.

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            China: let me in to save you

            Taiwan: save me from what?

            China: from what I’m gonna do to you if you don’t let me in

            Pretty much what “peaceful unification” means

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                  China hasn’t dropped a bomb in over 30 years.

                  It’s the USA that says “let me save you from what I will do to you if you don’t let me save you”.

                  The USA has destroyed a dozen countries in only the last 20 years. It is currently bombing multiple countries as we debate. China is doing nothing of the sort and has done nothing of the sort for decades.

                  You are projecting your own culture’s violent mobster-like behavior onto China in a way that is fundamentally divorced from reality.

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                    You’re literally a yank… and through your Yankish Orientalism you’re just advocating for the Chinese Monroe Doctrine

                    Aaanyways, I don’t expect you read Chinese (most yanks fascinated by the PRC don’t), but this post is from the PLA Eastern Theatre Command, not some rando on Weibo, a part of Chinese state apparatus.

                    The Chinese state showing their “Taiwanese comrades” as vermin to be exterminated by barrages of missiles is peaceful unification to you. Lmao. The locations of the worms in the photos are the most dense population centres in Taiwan, not military installations

                    In genocide studies, dehumanization is commonly understood as a preparatory step on the path to mass killing, which is also seen in other statements such as 留島不留人" (leave the island, don’t leave the people), etc.

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        Yes, that’s completely true.

        It does not in any way excuse China for its own current imperialism (e.g., Tibet, Xianjiang), or for its threats of further direct military conquests for the sake of expanding its empire (the subject of this article).

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        Australia is literally a imperial colony of the largest empire in the history of the world

        Your statement is wrong. Please read my brief comment in this thread. You’ll find more information about Chinese imperialism in Asia and across the world across the web.

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          It’s not from an approved propaganda source. The tankie won’t read it. They’re just maga for Communism… everything to them is fake news if it doesn’t feed into their views.

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            They are as much communists as maga are rational patriots. Auth-simps self isolating in a chosen echo chamber. Then when reality comes knocking, instead of wandering out to take a look like a well adjusted person. They run deeper into the closet.

          • freagle@lemmy.ml
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            8 days ago

            Communists in the West read twice as much as you liberals. We had to to even become communists. We had to read everything you had to read in school. We were raised by liberal parents just like you were, and they read the same shit your parents did and passed it down to us. We have to read the same anglosphere internet content and mainstream news sources, we watch the same movies and TV shows you do.

            And then we ALSO have to read everything else that contradicts it and dismantles it and argues against it. And then, because this is how intellectual honesty works, then we have to dig deeper into the anti-communist Western corpus in order to review the arguments against communism and find the arguments that directly attack the procommunist content we recently found. I dare say communists are likely to have read two or three things for every one thing you’ve read.

            Just because you only consume propaganda from your dominant culture doesn’t mean that people who disagree with you are just consuming propaganda from some other culture. It’s not really possible for it to be that way anyway. It’s not like I went through 16 years of communist schooling, or spent 30 years watching communist news casts and working with fellow communists in the work place or hanging out with communist friends. I have been fully immersed in Western anti-communist, Russophobia, sinophobic, capitalist white supremacist patriarchy, just like you have been.

            I just read different things and came to different conclusions than you did.