A retired Tennessee law enforcement officer was held in jail for more than a month this fall after police arrested him over a Facebook post of a meme related to the September assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk.

Prosecutors eventually dropped the criminal charge brought against Larry Bushart, but his stint behind bars came to exemplify the country’s tense political and legal climate following the tragedy, when conservatives sought to stymie public discourse about the late controversial figure that it saw as objectionable.

Now, Bushart is suing over his incarceration.

  • Madison420@lemmy.world
    1·
    5 hours ago

    Then you should be able to quote one directly that says “no one cared about states rights”.

    Jefferson Davis to Congress feb2 1860, almost exactly 1 year before seceding. You’ll notice it’s all about states rights because that’s the legal framework they chose to use since owning people was legal at the federal level.

    https://jeffersondavis.rice.edu/archives/documents/jefferson-davis-resolutions-relations-states

    3. Resolved, That the union of these States rests on the equality of rights and privileges among its members, and that it is especially the duty of the Senate, which represents the States in their sovereign capacity, to resist all attempts to discriminate either in relation to person or property, so as, in the Territories–which are the common possession of the United States–to give advantages to the citizens of one State which are not equally secured to those of every other State.

    Point to where I said or implied slavery was not the primary cause of the civil war. I won’t hold my breath because that isn’t something I’ve said nor would say. What I have said is that you’re wrong to say started rights weren’t involved or weren’t the primary reason the federal government got involved. Hell, Lincoln specifically campaigned on not getting involved in slavery.

    Yes Jefferson Davis was a slave owner and a racist, that isn’t news. It’s also something I’ve not argued against but you simply won’t stop reading into my words things that simply do not exist in them.

    You’ve quite literally said I’m stuck in lost cause theory which would make me an apologist and likely racist. Save the bullshit.

    • Bytemeister@lemmy.worldEnglish
      21·
      3 hours ago

      Point to where I said or implied slavery was not the primary cause of the civil war. I won’t hold my breath because that isn’t something I’ve said nor would say.

      Are you fucking serious?! Took me less than 10 seconds. Unlike you, when I make a claim, I can back it up with direct quotes and sources.

      Take your ball and go home.

      • Madison420@lemmy.world
        11·
        3 hours ago

        That’s me quoting the person person above me hence the quote shift.

        And that person was you. So unless you’re saying you were stating a support for slavery you might want to rethink that genius attempt to discredit me.

        • Bytemeister@lemmy.worldEnglish
          21·
          3 hours ago

          Get the fuck out. Did you miss the part where you said…

          That does not change it from being the framework for succession and their main complaint

          …which was in reference to me saying "states rights is a bullshit excuse?

          Which I literally screenshotted , highlighted, and made giant red arrows pointing to it.

          Do I need to do that all in-text for you? Are you using a braille display or something?

          Edit: Fuck it, went back to your original comment that prompted all of this. You sole position in there was that states rights was the founding principle of the Confederacy, and you even recognize there that it was complete bullshit excuse, but also claim that it was the sole cause for secession (and thus the civil war).

          Point to where I said or implied slavery was not the primary cause of the civil war. I won’t hold my breath because that isn’t something I’ve said nor would said

          • Madison420@lemmy.world
            12·
            3 hours ago

            Yes their main complaint is that a slave in one state is a Freeman crossing the border to another. They complain about it at length and it was indeed the framework they attempted to use to legalize their secession. That’s fairly common knowledge so I’m not sure why you would take issue with that nor do I see how you taste it as denial of slavery.

            which was in reference to me saying "states rights is a bullshit excuse?

            To which I replied

            That does not change it from being the framework for succession and their main complaint

            Which is accurate, something being idiotic does not make it unfactual. “They’re stealing our jobs, they’re all criminals” is a shitty excuse to attempt to deport millions does that at all change the fact that is the excuse they’re trying to use? I say no but I’d love to know your opinion on it.

            Edit: Fuck it, went back to your original comment that prompted all of this. You sole position in there was that states rights was the founding principle of the Confederacy, and you even recognize there that it was complete bullshit excuse, but also claim that it was the sole cause for secession (and thus the civil war).

            All this time and you didn’t bother to find out what the actual contention was? Educators can’t say it wasn’t about states rights because it was, it’s rooted in slavery sure but that’s not the cause of the civil war both Jefferson Davis and Lincoln agree on this and notably slavery was never abolished in this country.

            • Bytemeister@lemmy.worldEnglish
              21·
              3 hours ago

              Un-fucking-beleiveable.

              Well anyway, we’ve already established previously that you tacitly admitted to being a disingenuous troll, not sure why I’m bothering at this point anymore. Someone needed to counter your fake bullshit, and coming with direct quotes from you and actual links to actual references well establishes that you know what you are saying is a false re-writing of history to whitewash the fucking morons that betrayed the country to fight for the “right” to deny foundational rights and freedoms to others.

              • Madison420@lemmy.world
                11·
                2 hours ago

                Well anyway, we’ve already established previously that you tacitly admitted to being a disingenuous troll,

                And when did we do that exactly?

                It’s not rewriting anything.

                Let’s go fact by fact.

                Did the with use a framework of states rights to attempt to legalize seceding? Yes or no. No bullshit editorializing, yes or fucking no.

                • Bytemeister@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  11·
                  2 hours ago

                  ^^

                  Did the with use a framework of states rights to attempt to legalize seceding? Yes or no. No bullshit editorializing, yes or fucking no.

                  Point to where I said or implied slavery was not the primary cause of the civil war. I won’t hold my breath because that isn’t something I’ve said nor would said

                  You fucking tell me.

                  • Madison420@lemmy.world
                    1·
                    1 hour ago

                    See. When pushed into a yes or no you simply refuse to answer.

                    Yes or no genius. Should be easy to answer.