Oh? And what about news max and oann?
Same shit, of course, but won’t anybody think of the poor propagandists?
Fox is a conservative propaganda machine. Nothing they have to worry about
The US is fascist under Trump, and this is part of fascism.
Fox is not a news network. They are legally an entertainment network.
Well I mean he is doing that
This idiot needs to go to prison
Still so much better than Kamala, right bud?
Honest question: Why is this still a hot take? The only time I ever see this brought up is when it’s 150% satire. Ive never seen it in an actual argument.
Tankies say this all the time without a hint of sarcasm
Perhaps they do. I’m not part of that.
Didn’t mean to imply you were. Just answering your question 🍻
Gotcha, no ill will intended!
Right bud, was clearly sarcastic
in the sense that it is exposing compromised establishment dems and dino’s, yes.
identifing your enemies is much easier when they feel comfortable enough to take their masks off
I wasn’t very enthusiastic about her either but my comment was more direct than it may have seemed.
I’m so sick of hearing people smugly say “at least its not kamala” like she isn’t a shit ass politician. It doesn’t add anything to the conversation, it doesn’t help anyone, it’s not going to change anyone’s mind, and I don’t think it’s even sufficient to get you to finish your wank. You can do better.
If you can’t see the difference between “uninspiring but ultimately steady” and “actively regressing the US on the world and national stage” I don’t know what to tell you.
Just because the bus isn’t getting exactly you where you want doesn’t mean it’s not a better direction to take. And I don’t like Kamala; we need more progressive politicians period.
I voted for Harris.
Don’t worry, they’ll continue to assume that anybody who criticizes Kamala in literally any way is a Trump voter or a Russian agent. They’ll keep saying that the time for that is in the primaries, then when primaries roll around they’ll stay the primaries is the time for unity… again. I wonder why we keep losing elections?
With Gestapos attacking American cities and coverage of it being stifled, I’m not thinking of Harris, no less criticizing her.
Lmao who’s doing the assuming now
Yeah such a risky assumption…
I mean. Not sure how you get what you wrote from what I said so yeah seems decently risky.
how old are you, if i might ask?
i’m very well traveled, been to/through almost every state in the country and i tell you it’s the same story everywhere…
looking at the state of this country the last…20, especially 30-50 years, it is incredibly obvious that we’ve been steadily stepping backwards everywhere that really matters. cool, we don’t call people removed or retard anymore…meanwhile american workers continue to get squeezed for everything they can, a single minimum wage job used to buy you college, a home, and enough free-time for a decent vacation or 2 every year…now 2 full time jobs might let you pay off a home for your kids, maybe.
some minor social progress means nothing if 1 economic crash and a powergrab can undo it all
neolibs are not your friends, they care about nothing but $ same as republicans. how’s the saying go…“insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result”?
personally, I like it when my enemies (and their enablers) feel comfortable enough to take their masks off. makes identifying them much easier
And yet…
People seem to ignore the fact that I stated explicitly we need more progressive politicians. And of course there are huge problems with the current state of the Democratic establishment including a deference to the wealthy vs the majority of Americans.
But this “both sides” argument is absolute bullshit
its not a both sides argument…kamala winning legitimately wouldnt change anything, because republicans would still be in charge. all it would do is make it easier for the powers that be to blame democrats for everything. there are two sides…the progressives and the establishment, everything else is just a show put on for the circus
it would be obama all over again, but with an even less effective congress. the establishment would get all their ratfucking through, the left would be even more jaded at dems… wondering why none of their progressive policies are moving forward again…more disillusionment etc.
with trump and co. in power there are no more masks, it is clear as day to anyone who doesn’t have their head completely in the sand what is going on, how compromised their supposed representatives are/arent. extra so for the maga crowd, they might be dumb as shit but even they’re starting to see they’ve been played again (whether that’ll last through November of this year…who fucking knows), they might vote for trump unquestionably but so far that zeal hasnt extended to anyone else.
accelerationism sucks, it causes a lot of pain and misfortune…but it fucking works, as is clearly being seeing at the state/local level right now with all these decades-long republican held seats/boards being flipped
Would we have Gestapos attacking cities under Harris? Would all the government jobs be gone? Would we have the tariffs? It would not be the same
They’re literally going to stop or steal future elections. If you don’t believe this, then I’ve got a bridge to sell you.
We accelerated out of democracy entirely, and it’s very unlikely that voting can fix this.
You must be in a very privileged position to spout such rhetoric.
To many people, the difference is literally life and death
you are correct there, i escaped the labor trap not too long ago actually (that is what these animals at the top call it btw…because they know our Labor is weak and wages are capped, by the legislature they have paid off)
most of the working class isnt stupid, they know they’re on the bottom mate…they’re not slaving away at shit jobs all day every day for themselves…they’re doing it for their kids. nothing has changed (materially) for the better for them for the last 20-30 years regardless of whose in power.
everybody knows this game by now, that’s why so much of america just checks out entirely and focuses on taking care of them and theirs. for many, that’s all they can do, when your in survival mode you are physiologically incapable of thinking outside your immediate bubble.
and while not all democrats are neolib cocksuckers, the majority are and as long as they’re the majority voting for democrats is the same as voting for republicans, because they have the same end-goal.
the people so self-absorbed they don’t see the hand squeezing around them will only wake up when the grip tightens…that moment is going to happen very soon and it’s better for everyone that republicans are in power when it does.
“i’m (sic) very well traveled (sic)”
If you’re going to be pretentious, you should use proper grammar, syntax, and spelling.
no. if you understood what i said my english was fine, if you want prescriptive language start using french
Lmao
Turns out you can’t do better. The USA had one last chance and fucked it up. Just own it.
It’s weird you can’t tell “shit-ass politician” from “criminal, seditionist, narcissist dictator”; and I want to see the receipts on the first part now.
But if you don’t get why “maybe bad” isn’t different from “so bad even caricatures of bond villains don’t stack up”, then I need to recommend you don’t let the leopards. Or do: all I have is critical thinking and a desire for your well-being, so carry on.
I voted for Harris.
Watching USians convince each other that just voting represents an adequate level of civic engagement is weird and disturbing.
just voting 100% should be an adequate level of civic engagement
it would be if voting was a more complicated system than “things get worse? (y/n)”
we would need a direct democracy, i think, in order to have a society that requires only from us to vote, and even then there’s the matter of that someone needs to carry out the results of those votes. so even in a direct democracy, we would likely need to discuss politics, make plans together, resolve conflicts, and address immediate needs in our communities
I think you’re not sick enough of it yet. You should have to hear it some more.
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The Brenden Carr is a Dumny segment on the next Vergecast is going to be wild.
